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1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0L

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7 years 7 months ago #22934 by Matts Auto
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I got this jeep with a no start. I have good fuel pressure & good injector pulse & no spark from ignition coil. Tested cam & crank wave form ( appears to be good as comparing to others i have found). Tested for 12 volt power & signal to ignition coil connector (also looks good to me). So i thought bad coil. Replaced coil & still no spark from coil. Thought maybe bad new coil & tried another still nothing. am i missing something simple ? I tried attaching screen shots from my lab scope. First time posting a picture hope i did it right. Any thoughts would be appreciated. One picture is cam & crank. The other 2 are from the 2 ignition coil connector pins.
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7 years 7 months ago - 7 years 7 months ago #22937 by chief eaglebear
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retracted wasnt thinking
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7 years 7 months ago #22942 by Ben
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With all your sensor plugged in do you have your 8 volt supply to cam and crank sensor? Ground as well? You said you had 12v to the coil so that means the asd is working . The grey and white wire is the ignition coil driver at the coil pack connect your scope to that wire and crank it to see if your pcm is trying to fire the coil. The crank and cam sensor wave form should both be hitting 8v. If you attached a waveform pic can't see it on the tapatalk app and I'll have to check the website ... here's a sample waveform

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7 years 7 months ago #22943 by Matts Auto
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Thanks for reply Ben. It's my first time posting pictures so I hope they did work. One of the pictures I attached is of the green wire 12 v while cranking & one picture is the grey signal wire to coil while cranking. All of the tests were done with everything plugged in. The third picture is cam n crank

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7 years 7 months ago #22944 by cheryl hartkorn
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are you checking for spark at the end of the coil wire? or directly at terminal at the coil?? could just be a bad wire going from the coil to distributor

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7 years 7 months ago #22946 by Ben
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That cam signal doesn't look right to me?

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7 years 7 months ago #22947 by Ben
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Also the diagram for 95 says it has an 8v signal not a 5?

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7 years 7 months ago #22948 by Ben
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We're you maybe on the reference wire and not the signal wire on the cam sensor?

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7 years 7 months ago #22951 by Matts Auto
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The middle picture is the reference wire on coil green wire. Now that I look at it I'm getting less than 4 volts while cranking that Seems low.

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7 years 7 months ago #22952 by Matts Auto
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The top picture is cam n crank sensor. Cam has 8 volts there. But at coil reference green wire less than 4 ?

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7 years 7 months ago #22954 by Matts Auto
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You maybe right, I might have mistakenly probe reference on cam signal instead of signal wire. I'll have to recheck that tomorrow. Thanks for pointing that out.

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7 years 7 months ago #22959 by Matts Auto
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I rechecked myself this morning. I have good 8 volt supply to cam & crank sensors, good ground to cam & crank sensors & i believe good power & signal to coil but no spark from coil tower. I have good injector pulse & good fuel pressure also. Any ideas as to what i'm missing or overlooking ? Heres a snap shot of coil 12 volt power & signal with everything connected & cranking with coil connector back probed.
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7 years 7 months ago #22961 by Ben
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Could you get a shot of cam and crank signal as well?

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7 years 7 months ago #22962 by Ben
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Check the coil resistance as well I don't have the specs off hand but the vantage should have it in the guided component test

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7 years 7 months ago #22963 by Matts Auto
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screen shot of cam & crank signal is in my first post (top picture in post) not sure if it is legible for you, if not let me know i can repost. Original coil was bad (according to resistance test), tried 2 brand new coils (resistance tested good on both new). In my cam / crank sensor screen shot both signals top out around 5 volts although they both have good 8 volt reference & ground, is that correct ?

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7 years 7 months ago #22964 by Ben
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In your original post your cam sensor didn't look like you were on the signal wire it looks like your on the reference wire if you are indeed on the signal wire then we need to look into that further

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7 years 7 months ago #22965 by Ben
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Did you check the reference voltage with them plugged in? According to my reference material you should see 8v on the signal wire as well if 1 of them are shorted than it can pull it low that's why I want another capture on the cam sensor ensuring we are looking at signal and not reference

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7 years 7 months ago #22968 by Matts Auto
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yes all tests were done with everything plugged in. here are some more screen shots. the known good wave forms i found on internet seem to be around 5 volt peak for cam & crank sensors is that correct ?
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7 years 7 months ago #22969 by Matts Auto
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top photo is cam signal & crank signal. bottom photo is cam reference with crank signal.

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7 years 7 months ago #22970 by Ben
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I see could you get the cam and crank signal again but on a 2s time base also check your 5v ref at your tps and make sure that's not shorted

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