2001 Toyota celica
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Any suggestions on what next test should be?
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Looks like ECU but mechanic said that the ECU tested OK. Said wiring problem coming from crankshaft sensor to ECU. Tested wire for ground and it was OK tested wire for continuity and it was good.
Suspect ECU. Does anyone know if this ECU needs to be programmed when and if I Replace it?
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Looks like 4 wire coils.
These 3 are the same for all coils
Black - Battery positive from ignition relay
Black/Yellow - Power from ECM
White/Black - Ground
Coil Control by ECM
Cyl 1 - Red/Black
Cyl 2 - Red/White
Cyl 3 - Green/Red
Cyl 4 - Red/Yellow
Check inputs at all coils & tell us what you are missing. If you are missing coil control, check outputs at ECM
Coil control at ECM
Cyl 1 - Red/Black - Pin 10 @ ECM
Cyl 2 - Red/White - Pin 11 @ ECM
Cyl 3 - Green/Red - Pin 12 @ ECM
Cyl 4 - Red/Yellow - Pin 13 @ ECM
Once all the above have been checked, let us know the results & we will go from there
Good Luck - arbez
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I wouldn't suspect a bad sensor, if his symptoms are consistent. Possibly damaged or incorrectly installed exciter gear/wheel? Engine was just rebuilt, so anything is possible.
lets see what he says.
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If you have no output, you have to check your inputs. If you have spark from 2 coils & do not from the other 2, I would not suspect the sensors. But you have to check them anyway.
Not that this is a great way to test the sensors:
Cam Ohm spec's - 835-1400 cold - 1060-1645 hot.
Crank Ohm Spec's - 1630-2740 cold - 2065-3225 hot
If the Ohm spec is OK, it's time for a scope. Cam & crank correlation. See what you see. Post a screen shot.
I still suspect a damaged pick up wheel. I'd pull the sensors & slowly rotate the motor. Look at the pick up wheels & look for damage or cracks.
Let us know.
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Also are you talking about the cam position sensor and the crank sensor?
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Cam=1.07
Crank=1.99
Don't have a scope but will visually check the wheels for damage or cracks. Did not check for powers and grounds on ECM as I figured it was OK since I'm getting power and ground at each coil. Will check but I need a schematic that can show me what pins to check.
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At the computer - Looks like connector "C"
Pin 24 - White - Shared power
Pin 16 - Orange - Crank output
Pin 15 - Blue - Cam Output
Signal should be checked at the orange & blue wires with a scope.
Wiring diagram for the ECU is 6 pages. I'll see if I can find an online source to link you to.
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Maybe replaced with the wrong one? Could it be installed incorrectly? You still have to consider the cam also.
Do you have voltage at the cam & crank sensors? 5V Reference?
If so, your going to have to look at the cam & crank correlation.
Have you checked codes? Do you have any live data PIDS for cam/crank sensors?
It's really hard to help without being there. Please address all the suggestions before responding back.
Do you have access to a scope?
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