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GM BPP Circuit Signal applied 06 saab 9-7x Trailblazer Cruise No op.

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1 year 6 days ago #67398 by lastcreations
06 9-7x 5.3     gmt360    trailblazer envoy etc...

Troubleshooting a cruise non operational,  will not enter cruise at any speed.
older girl on a odd ball ecu,  E40.  In a Tech2   tech2win  in cruise section  everything 
functions as it should other then BPP circuit signal  is always applied...

No matter what happens this is always set to applied.

Brake switch is 3 single switches in one,  like many from this era.      NO true bpp
other then a BPP that is related to the adjustable pedal setup.

Tested the brake switch,  metered out good both the switch and wires separately 
tested.   Looked for a BPP  relearn  and there is not one for this girl in tech2win for
her.  
Programmed a different ecu as i read fresh programming can cause ecu to learn
on some models,   did not change the status of it in the shop.

Tracing wires now to confirm correct wiring at each module and receiving power, etc..
Before slamming parts at it...  yuck

ecu, trans, ebcm

WHAT module actually sets the BPP circuit signal  applied ?   I believe this is my issue
with the cruise not working.

Thank you for any tips or suggestions.

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1 year 4 days ago #67406 by Noah
 

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After reviewing the attached diagram, the brake switch applies power at rest from IGN E Fuse 22 (pink wire into the switch, purple wire out) to the ABS module (pin6) and ECM (pin 46) identified as Cruise Release. So on these circuits, 12v means brake released, less than 12v means brake applied. (This could mean no voltage, or some bias voltage provided from the module waiting to be overridden by the switch voltage, that's why I quantified it is as "less than 12v" and not 0v, or 5v, or 3.5v etc..)The brake lamp switch also incorporates a normally open switch, which is feed power on the orange wire from the stop lamp fuse 12 25A. When the brake pedal is applied, this circuit closes and applies power through the switch to the white wire of the switch, to the Vehicle Stop Fuse 35 15A in the rear fuse block, which goes to the TCM on pin 42 light blue and ECM pin 32 light blue. On these circuits, 12v means brake applied and less than 12v means not applied.
 

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1 year 10 hours ago #67443 by lastcreations
Thank you for the reply

What module actually sets this ?

There is zero documentation on this signal in all information i have searched and read. ONLY way i know about it as it is a PID on the tech2 otherwise nothing....

All wiring has been checked both unplugged and then plugged in to verify, everything still checks out perfectly normal.

changed ecm, changed tcm, both fresh new programming

As soon as the ecm has power this is set, no other module seems to affect this when removed from power/communication. Nothing i have done to this point has changed it from applied.

All for more suggestions....

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1 year 1 hour ago #67449 by lastcreations
Sorted out for now, no idea what did it exactly. But currently finally working !!

Center highmount tail light unplugged and plugged back in. Light worked fine all the time.

Back probed terminals at the ecu for the 5th or 6th time, may have finally made a better connection... no idea

Shows no corrosion or anything currently, will tear it down further just to prevent any issues in the future.

Everything has always checking out wiring, placement, and voltage measurements all worked correctly this entire time.
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