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01 Apr 2018 13:36 #19517 by Charles Acosta
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Built my own kit with 100 and 300 psi transducer. To test the 100 psi I set the compressor air to 50 psi. With the rubber tip nozzle I pressed it against the sensor and hit the trigger. it read 49.8 psi. Next was the 300 psi doing a in cylinder running compression on a 2014 Elantra. I noticed on the capture that on the exhaust stroke its not quite on 0 psi as I've seen on other captures from online. I customize my probe 0v = -37.5 psi, 0.1 = 0 psi and 4.5v = 300 psi. Maybe the settings need to be tweaked more? You guys can chime in. Last but not least bought the storage box from Harbor Freight with a their 25% off coupon. Happy Easter everyone.









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01 Apr 2018 19:29 #19538 by Noah
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Very cool, nice work B)

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04 Apr 2018 18:17 #19639 by Ro-longo
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Where did you get the transducers from?

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04 Apr 2018 19:59 #19645 by Charles Acosta
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From eBay

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04 Apr 2018 20:30 #19649 by Ro-longo
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Charles Acosta wrote: From eBay


Do you have a link? I purchased a 300 psi transducer from ebay awhile ago and it didn't work as expected.

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05 Apr 2018 14:51 - 05 Apr 2018 14:56 #19658 by Charles Acosta
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[ebayhttps://www.ebay.com/itm/USA-New-Pressure-Transducer-or-Sender-Stainless-Steel-for-oil-fuel-air-water/253238407682?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=552357600573&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
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05 Apr 2018 15:11 #19661 by Ro-longo
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Charles Acosta wrote: [ebayhttps://www.ebay.com/itm/USA-New-Pressure-Transducer-or-Sender-Stainless-Steel-for-oil-fuel-air-water/253238407682?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=552357600573&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649


Your link didn't work, I fixed it though, Thanks!!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/USA-New-Pressure-Transducer-or-Sender-Stainless-Steel-for-oil-fuel-air-water/253238407682?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=552357600573&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

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06 Apr 2018 14:27 #19681 by Andy.MacFadyen
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Nicely done, it is a really good feeling when you get your successful in-cylinder waveform with a home build sensor.

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06 Apr 2018 16:31 #19685 by Charles Acosta
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Ro-longo wrote:

Charles Acosta wrote: [ebayhttps://www.ebay.com/itm/USA-New-Pressure-Transducer-or-Sender-Stainless-Steel-for-oil-fuel-air-water/253238407682?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=552357600573&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649


Your link didn't work, I fixed it though, Thanks!!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/USA-New-Pressure-Transducer-or-Sender-Stainless-Steel-for-oil-fuel-air-water/253238407682?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=552357600573&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649


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07 Apr 2018 11:08 #19709 by Dylan
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Missed this one :(
I'm impressed. Nice work and a LOT cheaper than a WPS500 :)
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25 Apr 2018 03:26 #20184 by SailorBob
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I just built my own transducer also, but took a slightly different approach. I used a Drok 2203 buck converter which takes between 22-8vdc input and outputs steady 5vdc. I could just carry around a 9v battery and connect it, but I'm cheap so I want to just use the car battery as my power source.

The problem I've run into is that AC from the alternator is being passed through and making my waveforms hard to read:



So I was thinking about taking a 0.1uF capacitor and hooking it across the transducer signal wire and ground to shunt the AC component to ground and clean up the signal, but I'm no electronics engineer and was wondering if someone here might know if that'll work.
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25 Apr 2018 03:42 #20185 by SailorBob
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By the way, here are some nice online transducer training materials:

Just scroll down to the middle of the page:

www.picoauto.com/library/training

Example captures of various types of problems:

www.automotivetestsolutions.com/pressure...en-shots-page-1.html

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25 Apr 2018 09:14 #20198 by Charles Acosta
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You may have to go the 9 volt battery route to see if you get a cleaner signal. If you do buy a pack of 9 volt batteries.

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25 Apr 2018 10:33 #20199 by SailorBob
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After some testing, I discovered that it is the transducer itself generating that 40mv, 1 kHz sine wave noise:



I might try the transducer the OP bought and see if I have better luck.

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26 Apr 2018 03:32 #20209 by SailorBob
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After experimenting with various capacitor sizes I have laying around, I found the best results came from a 0.1uF mylar cap between the signal wire and 0V ref. It reduced the amplitude of the sine wave by almost 50%. Couldn't get anything better than that. However, I think the real problem is just that these transducers are cheap Chinese junk.

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26 Apr 2018 18:28 #20226 by Charles Acosta
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SailorBob wrote: After experimenting with various capacitor sizes I have laying around, I found the best results came from a 0.1uF mylar cap between the signal wire and 0V ref. It reduced the amplitude of the sine wave by almost 50%. Couldn't get anything better than that. However, I think the real problem is just that these transducers are cheap Chinese junk.


Use the link I posted earlier. They cost me 20 bucks and it turned out well. With the Pico it zeroes nicely.

It also works with the Verus but it is not zeroed. You could still do the numbers
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27 Apr 2018 08:08 #20237 by SailorBob
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No eBay APP ID défined in Kunena configurationIt turns out that there were two problems. The buck converter was generating a 400 kHz 40mv sine wave on it's power output, and the transducer itself was also generating a bunch of noise. I was able to clean up the converters output with an RC low pass filter I made from a 47 ohms resistor and a 1uF cap.

As far as getting a new transducer, the one you used doesn't ship to Israel, but I found this other one that looks pretty good, I'm getting a -14.5-30 psi and 300 psi.



If you're interested in the LFP, you can see more about it here:

electronics.stackexchange.com/q/370804/149212

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