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2001 Hyundai PCM fuse location

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6 years 6 months ago #13936 by Tim
I have a problem where the Evap canister solenoid (at rear of car) was suspect - couldn't fill up the tank and check engine light was on. I used an old fashioned voltage tester and I had 12 volts dc on one of the connector pins but no voltage on the negative pin. I'm under the impression that the light-up tester should have a dim light on the negative side (PCM) when the key is on and the sensor is connected to voltage. I had no voltage at all but mistakenly left the tester hooked up to 12 volts and touched the negative wire to a known ground. The car would not start after I did that. The OBD shows DTC error. Was I lucky enough to only have blown a fuse or is the PCM ruined . Yes the battery was hooked up when I worked on it. If there is a fuse. Where is it. All answers appreciated.

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6 years 6 months ago #13949 by Dylan
Welcome Tim ;)
Moving your topic to 'Repair questions'
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6 years 6 months ago #13955 by Tim
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Excellent but when may I expect an answer? Please advise.

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6 years 6 months ago - 6 years 6 months ago #13959 by Chad
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Hi, Tim.

Excellent but when may I expect an answer? Please advise.

I'm sure one of the moderators will be responding, soon. They are some very sharp guys and are, usually, pretty quick to respond.

In the meantime, I have a few questions?

Tim wrote: I used an old fashioned voltage tester

Are you referring to an incandescent test light? Or, an analog swing needle volt meter?

I had 12 volts dc on one of the connector pins but no voltage on the negative pin

Is this back-probing, with the connector connected to the solenoid?

I'm under the impression that the light-up tester should have a dim light on the negative side (PCM) when the key is on and the sensor is connected to voltage.

This is correct, with the connector connected.

left the tester hooked up to 12 volts and touched the negative wire to a known ground

This should not hurt anything. An incandescent test light with simply illuminate. An analog meter should simply read 12v.

If there is a fuse. Where is it.

Which model Hyundai is it? What is the 8th vin digit?

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6 years 6 months ago #13962 by Tim
Replied by Tim on topic 2001 Hyundai PCM fuse location
Tester is an incandescent.
Connector was not connected to solenoid when testing for 12 volts.
Next I plugged the connector back in with a jumper from the negative(white) wire .
I heard a "pop". Now the car will not start but the engine turns over as it normally does.
The ninth digit is a 1.

Thanks

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6 years 6 months ago #13965 by Chad
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I need the Model....Accent? Elantra? Santa Fe?......and the 8th (eighth) VIN digit, not the 9th.

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6 years 6 months ago - 6 years 6 months ago #13966 by Chad
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ScannerDanner uses a power probe to test in this video, but the procedure is the same for an incandescent test light. Notice that the connector is STILL CONNECTED to the solenoid during the test. The voltage that is read on the negative side is voltage that came through the windings in the solenoid....in from the power side, though the solenoid, to the ground side. You can see the voltage and the ground side because there is no ground.....until the computer commands the solenoid "ON" by providing a ground to the circuit.



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6 years 6 months ago #13967 by Chad
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I should add that using an incandescent test light to check for the voltage on the CONTROL side has some variable, in that there is resistance in the solenoid winding, and there is resistance in the test light element. The brightness of the test light depends on these resistances. Also, the solenoid may activate once it receives the ground from the test light.

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6 years 6 months ago #13975 by Tim
Replied by Tim on topic 2001 Hyundai PCM fuse location
Thank you. So I did short out the circuit by not having the solenoid connected. What damage is likely to have occurred? Is there a fuse for this circuit and if so where is it. Thanks for your time.

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6 years 6 months ago #13978 by Chad
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Tim wrote: What damage is likely to have occurred? Is there a fuse for this circuit and if so where is it.


What Model and Engine? I need more than just "Hyundai".

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6 years 6 months ago #13980 by Tim
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Thanks. It is a 2001 Hyundai Elantra GT with the L4-2.Ol.

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6 years 6 months ago #13981 by Chad
Replied by Chad on topic 2001 Hyundai PCM fuse location
It looks like the solenoid shares a fuse with the injectors. Check the engine compartment Relay & Fuse Box. Look for the 15 amp INJ(ector) Fuse.



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6 years 6 months ago #13983 by Tim
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Bingo. Good job. I should've known better than to run the test with tthe connector free of the load.

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6 years 6 months ago #13988 by Chad
Replied by Chad on topic 2001 Hyundai PCM fuse location
Great! :)

To clarify, though, the reason the fuse blew is NOT because you tested with the connector dis-connected. It is because you shorted the power wire (WHT) directly to ground, WITHOUT any resistor. I.E. the test light element, or solenoid windings. Even with the connector plugged in, back-probing the power feed to ground, with out a resistor, will pop the fuse.

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6 years 6 months ago #14002 by Tim
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Hi: I made the poor assumption that the white wire was negative. Thanks to the schematic you included I now see that clearly. Have a good day.

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