2009 Nissan Murano - Complete overhaul - misfire
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Sure, 11:1 is simply 11 times atmosphere (14.7)....so right around 160psi.
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I'll certainly check gaskets tomorrow to see if we have a leak somewhere. This is a complete rebuild and I did check my work many times as I went. I've rebuilt something like 15 different engines and this would be my first gasket to leak...but hey, It could happen and I'll check.
I'll get fuel trim data tomorrow. I've checked it over the weekend and bank 1 had zero LT and basically zero ST fuel trim. Bank 2 had zero LT and something like 5%+ ST
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The static fuel trim of +5 on bank 2 points to a lean condition but dynamic trims will tell more. Increase RPM to 1500, 2500 and 3500 and note trim values at each stage.
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The static fuel trim of +5 on bank 2 points to a lean condition but dynamic trims will tell more. Increase RPM to 1500, 2500 and 3500 and note trim values at each stage. Growing positive values is indicative of a vacuum leak
I disagree with this. With a vacuum leak, fuel trims tend to improve with elevated RPM's. Growing positive values would indicate a fuel delivery, or air metering problem.
Do you think it's possible for bank 1 to have more consistent supply than bank 2?
An injector balance test would not be a bad idea.
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Here are screen shots off my phone as I graphed ST fuel trim.
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Image with file name 900 is at idle. The misfire occurs exactly when fuel trim is increased. Every once in a while the engine won't misfire for two or three seconds when at idle. 95% of the time at idle is the pattern you see in the picture.
There was no misfire from RPM 2000 to 3000.
The image with file name "3000 to 5000 to 900" is when I held steady at 3000 then did a quick throttle snap up to 5000 and then foot off the throttle back to idle. I held steady until 16:13:56 and was on and off the throttle before 16:13:57....the U shape formation. The rest of the graph is at idle with the engine trying to recover. The engine did not misfire until I gave it quick throttle snap.....and then started misfiring immediately when it went back to idle.
I tried to graph RPM on the same chart but I can't show two different Y axis and the scale is way off. I don't have any fancy dancy scanner equipment like you big dogs.....bowwow.
ALSO, I've been working through this issue for about three weeks now. Once I identified this pattern, I moved all of the coils from bank 1 up to bank 2 and vice versa. No change in performance. I then moved all of the injectors from bank 1 over to bank 2 and vice versa.........SAME PROBLEM....NO CHANGE.
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I don't have any fancy dancy scanner equipment like you big dogs.....bowwow.
With that in mind. Swap all bank 1 injectors with bank 2. Repeat RPM test. Does bank 1 now run lean?
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Thank you again for all of your help with this.
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I see an average of 10-20% positive increase during the miss. Shooting from the hip, that makes me wonder about an injector problem. :huh: Not a restriction, more like an electrical problem. High resistance, poor contact, like that. Probably not an injector, since you already moved those around.
"Shouldn't that set an injector code?" Well, I searched service information for this '09 Murano. There are no injector codes.
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juergen.scholl,.....would you agree?
This is one possibility.
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I'll check power and grounds over the weekend. I've done some of this already and I'm pretty sure I do have good power and grounds.
And if they are good, we have bad sensors......correct???
I have a busy Easter weekend so I might not reply until Monday.
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