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Bmw e90 crazy lean condition

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4 years 2 months ago - 4 years 2 months ago #53820 by Prince99
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Hello guys
Hope you are doing well

Car is a Bmw, july 2007, e90 n52n 328i
This car is driving me insane, symptoms, car wont start unless spray some carb cleaner in air filter, then after it starts it idles very bad and most of the time dies unless accelerator pressed, sometimes it stay running bad idle but stay running until i switch it off and i i start it after that it will not start unless spraying some carb cleaner again
short fuel trims on both banks are at maximum positive 30 (lean) which makes the dme triggers rich to compensate the lean condition as i understand, upstream o2 reads 1.9 v and downsteam os reads 0.800 v but when i spray some carb cleaner when the car at idle, both short fuel trim on both banks changes to 0 or negative value and the reading of 4 o2 sensors changes accordingly (which i understand from watching danner channel is confirmed prove that o2 sensors are not faking the lean condition.
What i have done,
1-checked fuel pressure, and it came around 70 psi, 5 bar (manufacturer spec are 75 psi, 5.5 bar)
2-smoke tested the car, came with major leak at pcv valve at the top of valve cover and i replaced the pcv which was a diaphragm failure, and the car still the same condition with the new pcv, also small leak at the eccentric shaft sensor seal, and crankshaft front seal (which I don't think is the reason of this major lean condition)
3- cleaned the injectors which were in perfect condition and replaced fuel filter
4- confirmed catalytic converter clogged on both banks checked with camera endscope

Faults are
P1105, which indicates intake manifold pressure sensor plausibility, when the car starts the reading of the map is 45 hpa the reading drops to 17-19 hpa, the the fualt shows.
P0171, p0174 lean codes for both banks

Thank you in advance
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4 years 2 months ago #53823 by Paul P.
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Key on, engine off the MAP should be ~950hPa

Key on, Engine running the map should be ~600-700hPa

With the Key on, unplug the Map Sensor, does the reading change?

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4 years 2 months ago #53824 by Prince99
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Will try and report back
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4 years 2 months ago #53826 by Prince99
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I am sorry, but RealOEM using the car vin, shows it as a differential pressure sensor rather than a MAP sensor
So i think what you wrote to be the correct value would not be correct?

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4 years 2 months ago #53827 by Paul P.
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Alright then, unplug that sensor, does the data change?

Do you have a MAP reading?

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4 years 2 months ago #53840 by Prince99
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Yes when i unplug it it reads 799 hPa, and when plugged and ignition on it reads 0 hPa, beside that i do not find pressure reading

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