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FIXED 2009 Silverado 4.3L 5V reference issues
2 years 6 months ago #51926
by Nagy07
2009 Silverado 4.3L 5V reference issues was created by Nagy07
My Dad and I swapped a motor from a 2008 Silverado into a 2009 (4.3L V6)
Both motors ran before swap, one with a bad bearing (2009) and the other with a bad transmission (2008). The Bad transmission (2008) is now in the 2009 truck and were experiencing 5v system failure. I've watch the video posted where he trouble shoots this on a Cadillac and it helped up a lot, but what we're trying to come up with now is a diagram for the 5v electrical system, or a list of sensors on the 5v-1 system so we can trace whats going on.
Currently have DTC's
Current - P0641
Pending - B2AAA
Pending - P0107
Pending - P0452
Tested for 5v at ECM pin 13 (Grey) and there's 4.85v (5v-1)
Tested at pin 53 (Grey) and that had 4.95v (5v-2)
Tested at pin 54 (PU/WH) and that had 4.95v (5v-2)
Tested at Throttle body Grey pin had 4.95
Test at Map, a/c pressure and Fuel pressure sensor and there's less than 1v
We have slowly moved the harness around and watched a multimeter that was alligator clipped to pins and not seen any change in voltage.
During the engine swap, the engine wire harness was ziptied up to the firewall out of the way of the motor and transmission to avoid and crushing or tearing. I'm just wondering if this in turn created our problem.
Truck runs and drives but with Engine Low Power message and does so poorly.
Both motors ran before swap, one with a bad bearing (2009) and the other with a bad transmission (2008). The Bad transmission (2008) is now in the 2009 truck and were experiencing 5v system failure. I've watch the video posted where he trouble shoots this on a Cadillac and it helped up a lot, but what we're trying to come up with now is a diagram for the 5v electrical system, or a list of sensors on the 5v-1 system so we can trace whats going on.
Currently have DTC's
Current - P0641
Pending - B2AAA
Pending - P0107
Pending - P0452
Tested for 5v at ECM pin 13 (Grey) and there's 4.85v (5v-1)
Tested at pin 53 (Grey) and that had 4.95v (5v-2)
Tested at pin 54 (PU/WH) and that had 4.95v (5v-2)
Tested at Throttle body Grey pin had 4.95
Test at Map, a/c pressure and Fuel pressure sensor and there's less than 1v
We have slowly moved the harness around and watched a multimeter that was alligator clipped to pins and not seen any change in voltage.
During the engine swap, the engine wire harness was ziptied up to the firewall out of the way of the motor and transmission to avoid and crushing or tearing. I'm just wondering if this in turn created our problem.
Truck runs and drives but with Engine Low Power message and does so poorly.
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2 years 6 months ago #51929
by Noah
"Ground cannot be checked with a 10mm socket"
Replied by Noah on topic 2009 Silverado 4.3L 5V reference issues
P0641 sets for a problem with the 5v ref 1 circuit.
MAP sensor, FTP (fuel tank pressure), A/C pressure sensor, accelerator pedal position sensor 2, engine oil pressure sensor and camshaft position sensor according to what I'm seeing on All Data
MAP sensor, FTP (fuel tank pressure), A/C pressure sensor, accelerator pedal position sensor 2, engine oil pressure sensor and camshaft position sensor according to what I'm seeing on All Data
"Ground cannot be checked with a 10mm socket"
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2 years 6 months ago #51930
by Cheryl
Replied by Cheryl on topic 2009 Silverado 4.3L 5V reference issues
Got to see if all those sensors are on the same5 volt reference. I don’t think you have a shorted sensor because you have the 5 volts at the computer. So trace the map sensor wire back and see if you find any corrosion
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2 years 6 months ago #51941
by Nagy07
Replied by Nagy07 on topic 2009 Silverado 4.3L 5V reference issues
I appreciate this! Any way you can share the picture file displayed for reference while we're at the truck?
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2 years 6 months ago #51953
by Tyler
Replied by Tyler on topic 2009 Silverado 4.3L 5V reference issues
The following user(s) said Thank You: Noah
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2 years 6 months ago #51996
by Nagy07
Replied by Nagy07 on topic 2009 Silverado 4.3L 5V reference issues
Solved the issue tonight, the pigtail from the oil sender was pinched between the block and the transmission. I appreciate all the responses and this diagram is what led to us finding the issue. Thanks a bunch!
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