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2001 ranger 3.0 manual transmission

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4 years 1 month ago #51163 by Cheryl
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My brother is installing an engine. Just has the engine bolted in. No heads on or lower intake. He has a question he’s not sure if he has the transmission input shaft aligned with the clutch. Because he says in gear he can’t turn the crank by hand but in neutral he can. Truck is sitting on flat level ground not jacked up. Is this an issue??

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4 years 1 month ago #51164 by Tyler
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That... sounds reasonable? :huh: With tires on the ground and the driveshaft installed, he shouldn't be able to turn the crank in gear. Not without rolling the truck forward, anyway.

I might not be understanding his situation. :silly:

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4 years 1 month ago #51165 by Cheryl
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Yes driveshaft installed and rear tires on ground doesn’t rotate. But when put into neutral it rotates. Says he wasn’t sure and didn’t want to go any further with the job. It’s just the block with pistons installed no heads yet.

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4 years 1 month ago #51166 by Cheryl
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He over thinks things sometimes. I’ll have him jack the rear of the truck up tomorrow and put it in gear and see if it rotates by hand before he bolts on the heads etc….

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4 years 1 month ago #51178 by Cheryl
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Do you have an email he can send you a video of it?

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4 years 1 month ago #51179 by Tyler
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4 years 1 month ago #51180 by Cheryl
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Okay he texted me and says “ with rear of turd bucket jacked up transmission in 1st gear driveshaft in he can turn engine over by hand with breaker bar. No resistance” as the heads aren’t on it. Another question of his I don’t know the answer to is he says why does only one wheel spin in the back while turning engine over with the breaker bar. I told him I’m not no driveline guru I’m a engine performance/ programming person.

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4 years 1 month ago #51181 by Chad
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why does only one wheel spin in the back while turning engine over with the breaker bar.
 
Because of the Differential Gear assembly.

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"Understanding a question is half an answer."
I have learned more by being wrong, than I have by being right. :-)

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4 years 1 month ago #51182 by Tyler
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Yep, Chad called it. It's just the drivetrain doing drivetrain stuff. :silly:

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4 years 1 month ago #51183 by Chad
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If you were to stop/hold the spinning wheel, the other wheel would start spinning. Kinetic energy path of least resistance.
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4 years 1 month ago #51187 by Cheryl
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I’m good with electrical programming scope stuff mainly diag. Drivetrain I know nothing about. So I’m going to assume the clutch splines and input shaft splines are lined up. So would you say he has a green light to keep going on this job? He’s in the propane industry not automotive. He pays people to do it for him but this is a project truck he picked up

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4 years 1 month ago #51188 by Hardtopdr2
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The gods of open rear end aka a nonposi rear will do that. A posi rear diff will spin one one way and the other tire in a different direction. As for the clutch assembly did he use a clutch pak alignment tool while installing the clutch pak to flywheel? If he did he should be good to go.

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4 years 1 month ago #51189 by Cheryl
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Yes he used one of those plastic clutch tools to align clutch when he bolted the pressure plate and flywheel on. Said it was hard to get it mated had the bolts started on the bellhousing and wiggled the crank pulley and transmission and heard a thump and said the bolts tightened up with a stubby 3/8!ratchet by hand. No long ratchet needed. So he assumed it wasn’t forcing the input shaft and clutch splines together. Should be a nice build when complete bored 30 over and stroked cammed out heads port and polished bigger injectors. Says he wasn’t a little sleeper. Has a guy supposed to be building a nice rear end for it when he gets the engine in abs running.

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4 years 1 month ago #51191 by Tyler
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So I’m going to assume the clutch splines and input shaft splines are lined up. So would you say he has a green light to keep going on this job?
I'd say he's in the clear. :) Everything so far indicates he got it all lined up and working correctly.

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4 years 1 month ago #51192 by Cheryl
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He said them splines took forever to get lined up. He says he’ll stick to delivering propane and never do the automotive field professionally. It was comical he stood in the engine compartment and man handled the block picked it up wiggling. I said ya know you have a hoist right….

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4 years 1 month ago #51200 by guafa
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Hi guys,

Like some guys said. That's the way manual transmission works. If you shift into any gear and with clutch pedal released, you have total engage between crankshaft and wheels.

You can spin crankshaft freely, by lifting wheels or simply by pressing clutch pedal.

An old non orthodox practice when you have a starter issue and you need to turn engine on, is to engage fourth gear, with key on let the car gain impulse in a hill and suddenly release clutch pedal. That way you move crankshaft replacing starter function.

 

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4 years 1 month ago - 4 years 1 month ago #51201 by guafa
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Caution!!

Many manual transmission vehicles don't have safety electrical systems to avoid you fire starter into a gear shifted. (For instance two switches in series with starter control wire. One in clutch pedal and the other in transmission) .

So you have to be sure you are into neutral before you try to turn engine on without pressing clutch pedal. Other way you would move the whole vehicle by cranking.

 
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4 years 1 month ago #51202 by Cheryl
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He’s already went ahead and got it sitting on the motor mounts. It’ll be sitting like that for awhile until machine shop gets done with the heads.

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