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2103 f150 3.5 ecoboost p2300 and p2303

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4 years 3 months ago #49777 by Zac2728
I have p2300 and p2303. I have no ground signal coming from pcm on coils 1 and 2. I have 12 volts on the positive side and I have ground also. I've omhed the signal wires and hot and ground wires and everything ohms out. And I've swapped cam sensors around and it hasn't changed anything the codes still stayed I've also disconnected the battery and tries to drain the pcm then I hooked everything back up and it still has those codes key on engine off before I even start the engine.

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4 years 3 months ago #49778 by jreardon
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What year? Try resetting the keep alive memory or do bypass test at the computer. identify the trigger wire backprobed at the computer, take a voltage measurement, should be 0v if it's not firing, and pull it up with a test light and see if the coil fires.

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4 years 3 months ago #49779 by jreardon
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Also ohming out a wire end to end does not rule out a short to ground so unplug pcm and coil and check wire for a short to ground if you can't make the coil fire.

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4 years 3 months ago #49782 by Zac2728
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I've taken a test light to both coils and im not receiving power. Ill do the voltage test at wire coming out of the computer tomorrow. If its not receiving power does that mean more than likely it a computer issue? 
 

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4 years 3 months ago #49783 by Zac2728
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I've taken a test light to both coils and im not receiving power. Ill do the voltage test at wire coming out of the computer tomorrow. If its not receiving power does that mean more than likely it a computer issue? 
And I've also cleared keep alive memory and the codes are still there as soon as I turn the key on

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4 years 3 months ago - 4 years 3 months ago #49784 by jreardon
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Just so we're on the same page this is a 2013 with 3 wires going to each coil right?

I will proceed with assuming this is the 3 wire coil.

The code description says short to ground for coil 1 and 2.

Do the codes change if you disconnect coils 1 & 2 and reset KAM? If not then I think you have a short in the harness.

Just perusing the possible codes, it seems the pcm watches that circuit between itself and the coil with some sort of voltage I think. If it sees zero, it will set that code for a short to ground, or circuit low. If it sees anything higher than whatever it's putting out (the PCM), then it will set a code for circuit high or short to voltage.
Last edit: 4 years 3 months ago by jreardon. Reason: wrong coil number

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4 years 3 months ago #49785 by Zac2728
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Yes it is a 3 wire coil and a 2013 f150 3.5. I unhooked the pcm and the battery and put one end of my voltage meter on a ground and the other end on the signal wire and it never ohms out I also had it set on 2k ohms and when I plug the pcm back in reads 1.010 ohms if I unplug it, it reads 1 ohms and so does the other signal wires for the coils

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4 years 3 months ago #49786 by Zac2728
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And by the way when I set my ohm meter it reads 1 without touching the leads together

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4 years 3 months ago #49787 by jreardon
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For short to ground testing just set the meter to max ohms setting and make sure it reads OL.

I guess you could jump a known good coil signal wire, like from coil #3, and jump that into coil #1 or #2 , reset KAM just for good measure, and see if it sets a code for coil #3.

I don't know if doing a KOEO On Demand Self-test will operate the coils or not but give that a shot too.

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4 years 3 months ago #49788 by jreardon
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And by the way when I set my ohm meter it reads 1 without touching the leads together
Lol, that's a problem.

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4 years 3 months ago #49790 by jreardon
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Forget the meter, cut the wire at the pcm. If code is still there after resetting KAM, it's the pcm.

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4 years 3 months ago #49794 by Zac2728
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I set it the to highest ohms and it read ol then I moved it to 2k and the only time it went from ol to 1.010 was when I plugged the pcm back up and it just did it on coil 1 and 2 but not the others and ill jump coil 3 to coil two and see what it does

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4 years 3 months ago #49797 by Zac2728
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They only came back that time after starting the engine

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4 years 3 months ago - 4 years 3 months ago #49813 by jreardon
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So, 1 ohms reading to ground when the computer is reconnected?
Pop the plastic off the connector, the two wires in question are right next to each other.

imgur.com/a/MGSG78W
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4 years 3 months ago #49832 by Zac2728
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I'm reading 1.99 ohms and the meter is set on 4 kOhms on the hot side of all the coils with one lead on ground chasis. I think I realized that the signal wire is not my problem lol I'm learning slowly lol

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3 years 9 months ago #53501 by Krilliot
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Was this ever resolved? I have same vehicle and same problem. P2300 and P2303. Seems I can unplug the coils on cylinder 1 and 2 and there is no change in how the engine runs. If I unplug any other cylinder then it idles worse. I was getting inconsistent ground and 12 volts from those pigtails so I replaced the pigtails and now I'm getting good voltage to both. Still same issue. Tried swapping coil from a cylinder I know works and no change.

Thanks.

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3 years 9 months ago #53503 by Zac2728
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It ended up being the pcm. The coils shorted out and back feed 12v to the pcm

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3 years 9 months ago #53507 by Krilliot
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Thanks for the response. I'm starting to think it has to be PCM as well. I'll order one and update how it goes.

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