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2012 Jaguar XF 5.0 Naturally Aspirated engine-Are these waveforms off?
3 years 3 months ago #46333
by bensauto
Hello! I am working on a 2012 Jaguar XF 5.0 Naturally Aspirated engine...we put a used motor in and it sets a p0019 crank cam correlation sensor B fault immediately on startup. I can control variable timing on all 4 cams & the engine change is about the same. I scoped bank 1 intake & exhaust cam signals to compare to bank 2. I couldn't find any comparable waveforms. My question is, are the attached waveforms different enough to set a p0019? They sure are close, but I wanted someone else's opinion. Thanks!
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3 years 3 months ago - 3 years 3 months ago #46334
by Matt T
Replied by Matt T on topic 2012 Jaguar XF 5.0 Naturally Aspirated engine-Are these waveforms off?
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3 years 3 months ago - 3 years 3 months ago #46335
by Chad
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Replied by Chad on topic 2012 Jaguar XF 5.0 Naturally Aspirated engine-Are these waveforms off?
The p0019 re-enforces the thought but, in general, I would hesitate to definitively call a timing issue, based off of a Cam/Crank correlation waveform, without comparing to a known-good.
This is a Cams/Crank correlation waveform for a GM 3.6L.
The intake cams line up and stack, perfectly. The exhaust cams have an offset. Without comparing to a Known-Good, you would think that an exhaust cam is out of time. It's not. This is a Known-Good Cams/Crank correlation with new chains.
I checked the Pico Waveform Library for a Known-Good. No success.
This is a Cams/Crank correlation waveform for a GM 3.6L.
The intake cams line up and stack, perfectly. The exhaust cams have an offset. Without comparing to a Known-Good, you would think that an exhaust cam is out of time. It's not. This is a Known-Good Cams/Crank correlation with new chains.
I checked the Pico Waveform Library for a Known-Good. No success.
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"Understanding a question is half an answer."
I have learned more by being wrong, than I have by being right.
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3 years 3 months ago #46340
by Tyler
Replied by Tyler on topic 2012 Jaguar XF 5.0 Naturally Aspirated engine-Are these waveforms off?
I also couldn't find any known good to compare to.
IMO, the cam/crank waveform is fun and all, but the car is telling you what's wrong. Either the cam timing is off, or the reluctor wheel for that cam is shifted/damaged. Both will require disassembly to inspect and repair. A quick look at service info shows a TON of special tools for checking and setting timing on this engine.
I think I'd take my chances on another used engine before going down that path. :silly:
IMO, the cam/crank waveform is fun and all, but the car is telling you what's wrong. Either the cam timing is off, or the reluctor wheel for that cam is shifted/damaged. Both will require disassembly to inspect and repair. A quick look at service info shows a TON of special tools for checking and setting timing on this engine.
I think I'd take my chances on another used engine before going down that path. :silly:
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3 years 1 month ago #48091
by DooMHaMMeR247
Replied by DooMHaMMeR247 on topic 2012 Jaguar XF 5.0 Naturally Aspirated engine-Are these waveforms off?
I have a 2010 right now, it does make a lot of noise fairly certain there is a mechanical fault due to lack of oil. I will show you a know bad and will post know good if customers repair the vehicle. I believe bank 2 is 180 off. Has p0019 and about 40 other codes. But the 0019 returns immediately.
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