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Ignition current ramping

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4 years 9 months ago - 4 years 9 months ago #45812 by spit64
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This is from an Ignition coil cassette assembly at startup the current is 17 amps and then goes down to 9 amps I am on the ground to the cassette. How is this possible I think it must be the alternator charging too much any thought on this?
This is from an Opel Astra 2005 XEP16 engine I still working on this car but that's another thread I posted a new one because it is a general question about current on ignition coils

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4 years 9 months ago - 4 years 9 months ago #45813 by spit64
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Next slide low current after startup
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4 years 9 months ago #45814 by Matt T
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Might be doing something to deliberately generate a stronger spark at startup. I doubt an '05 has an actual ballast resistor but may be performing the same function electronically.

Going after the alternator based on those waveforms is a rabbit hole IMO.
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4 years 9 months ago #45816 by Tyler
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I'd be interested in comparing the on-time of the coil when it's at 17 amps, compared to when it's less than 10. Is the on-time for the coil that much longer right after startup? Or is the on-time the same.

I also think the alternator is a rabbit hole. BUT, if you really wanted to prove it, you could disconnect the alternator and prevent it from fielding during startup.

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4 years 9 months ago #45817 by spit64
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Tyler wrote: I'd be interested in comparing the on-time of the coil when it's at 17 amps, compared to when it's less than 10. Is the on-time for the coil that much longer right after startup? Or is the on-time the same.

I also think the alternator is a rabbit hole. BUT, if you really wanted to prove it, you could disconnect the alternator and prevent it from fielding during startup.

On-time is the same
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4 years 9 months ago #45818 by spit64
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Next Saturday I try to get the car all day and test it again to see if it is a one-time event.
I am only a diy try to learn and help other people because there is only part changer around and it gets really expensive

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4 years 9 months ago #45819 by Tyler
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spit64 wrote: On-time is the same


Interesting. B)

I like Matt's theory about the ICM regulating coil current? But normally, when I see coil current limiting strategies, the top of the ramp plateaus out. You can't 'see' if that's what the ICM is doing, because all the magic happens in the cassette.

Can't say I've measured coil current during startup. :unsure: So I honestly don't know if this is a common strategy or not. Maybe I'll check a few known good cars.

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4 years 9 months ago #45826 by Matt T
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Tyler wrote: I like Matt's theory about the ICM regulating coil current?


I don't :silly:

Just noticed the start up current is about double running. Might be firing two coils at once until it gets a CMP sync?

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