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Replace Lines on Rack?

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3 years 9 months ago #41558 by Tutti57
I was trying to save my sister in law from replacing the rack on her 2012 Routan since the leaking line is one that comes on the rack. I took it off last night and was surprised to find it is not just a double flare or anything like it. There is a flare but also a thinner tube that looks like it goes inside something, and a rubber o ring. I have never tried to do this type of repair to a rack so maybe they are all like this, but does anyone have any experience making a line or is she going to have me put the whole unit in after a long hot day in the shop, on my back in her driveway...

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3 years 9 months ago #41560 by Tyler
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Can't say I've ever made a line like that. :huh: Was the P/S fluid coming out from between the flare nut and the rack? Or between the line and the nut?

If I were you, I'd probably try to find a new O-ring, and use some RTV on the nut threads. Clean/dry the fittings in the rack and give it a few hours to cure.

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3 years 9 months ago #41561 by dfends@hotmail.com
Yeah that’s a certain kind of flare and the o ring seals it . I don’t think the line is available comes with the rack . It’s a Routan but if I’m not mistaken it’s a caravan with vw emblem


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3 years 9 months ago #41568 by Tutti57
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The line was rusted at one of the bends and not at the fittings, so I was hoping to just do a cheap fix for her, and yes it is a Dodge. Funny, my Launch Scanpad gives me no info unless I go in under Dodge, ha.

Well I'll let her know she is out of luck there. Thanks for the replies!

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3 years 9 months ago #41569 by Matt T
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Rather than replacing the rack just buy a reman and transfer the lines you need over to the rack that's already in the van. Then put the bad lines on the reman and return it for the core.

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3 years 9 months ago #41570 by dfends@hotmail.com
Try call Chrysler parts tomorrow choose same year caravan I think on the drivers door inside is still
The Chrysler sticker see if they have a rack pick see if lines can be bought . If you can see if vin is there I can see if lines are available


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3 years 9 months ago #41576 by Hardtopdr2
That line is one piece...
If you have a hydraulic brake line flaring tool that does the quick connect fittings it will make those. If not the kit is not cheap ~$300 + for the kit but it does fuel lines, brake line 45 degree and iso metric bubble flare, single flare and a few others. It will flare stainless steel line as well and no mess ups like what is common with the little hand job deal.

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3 years 9 months ago #41586 by Tutti57
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The guy I work next to has one but didn't think it could do them. Is it called a quick connect?

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3 years 9 months ago #41587 by dfends@hotmail.com
That’s great glad you figured it out


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3 years 9 months ago #41589 by Tutti57
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Sorry, I wasn't clear on that response, ha. I haven't tried it yet. He pulled the kit out yesterday but didn't think it would work. I'll have a look today. thanks

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3 years 9 months ago #41591 by Noah
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Is that a 3/16 line? I'd put a compression fitting on that in a heartbeat....

"Ground cannot be checked with a 10mm socket"

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3 years 9 months ago #41596 by Tutti57
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Yes. Only problem is that I had to cut it at one of the fittings to get a socket on it due to rust...

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3 years 9 months ago #41599 by Tyler
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Maybe drop by a local salvage yard? See if they've got another in decent condition. Since it's a rebadge, there'll hopefully be a few different vehicles to choose from.

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3 years 9 months ago #41616 by Hardtopdr2
The actual flare is called a bubble flare. Sorry could remember it off of the top of my head. But yes his kit should be able to do it.

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3 years 9 months ago - 3 years 9 months ago #41630 by Tutti57
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Here is a link to a thread Google found of people with the same problem and better pics. I've never seen a bubble flare like this. Is that smaller part that sticks out not needed? Also, is this a high pressure line?

bangshift.com/forum/forum/bangshift/tech...will-this-do-a-flare

I saw used racks were about $150 and I just don't have time to make it out to the pick and pull any time soon.

This with a rubber hose? Not sure if it's the right size though.



The pressure and return lines have the same ends on them, so if they are the same size I could get one or two of those and cut the end off and run a hose, maybe.
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3 years 9 months ago #41631 by Tutti57
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Ok, here is my current plan up for review...

I'll have my parts dept get me a pressure line tomorrow so I can compare it to what I have. if the sizes are the same, I'll cut the end off and make it work.

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3 years 9 months ago #41743 by Noah
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Tutti57 wrote: I'll cut the end off and make it work.

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