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p0300 on 2008 silverado 5.3

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3 years 11 months ago #40473 by dgs000
- 2008 silverado 5.3 engine
- P0300 code, snap-on scan tool indicates misfiring on cylinders 1, 2, 4, and 7
- before current issue vehicle had slight lifter tap sound and white smoke from exhaust on every start up. Never had any check engine light. Took engine apart and did the following:
- Headgasket replaced
- Headgasket bolds replaced
- Valve gasket replaced
- Valve stem seals replaced
- Cleaned and reseated existing valves since there was no damage
- Intake mainfold gasket replaced
- Exhaust gaskets replaced
- Upgrade driverside valve cover
- Valve cover gaskets replaced
- Replaced all 8 amf lifters with new amf lifters
- Replaced all 8 non amf lifters with new non amf lifters
- All lifters were put in correct locations, there was no damage to any of the old lifters, all rollers where in great shape, only issue was a few of the amf lifters could be compress slightly by hand
- Visual inspected cam and no damage of any kind
- Cam and Crank sensors replaced
- Engine coolant temperature sensor replaced
- Waterpump replaced
- Thermostat replaced
- Spark plugs had been replaced 1,000 miles ago
- Spark plug wires had been replaced 1,000 miles ago
- Fuel injectors had been replaced 1,000 miles ago
- All o2 sensors replaced
- All rocker arms torqued down to 22lbs, turned engine for each so they where not on head on cam for installation
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- Once engine was put back together flashing check engine light present with code p0300
- Moved coil packs to see if misfires followed, no change
- Compression test on all cylinders with reading of 180psi for each
- Performed tps relearn, no change
- All rocker heads move while engine is cranked with valve covers removed
- Cylinder 1 misfire count of 53
- Cylinder 2 misfire count of 27
- Cylinder 4 misfire count of 107
- Cylinder 7 misfire count of 58
- While under load all misfires dissappear but come back at idel
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Any suggestions to resolve this issue would be greatly appreciated

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3 years 11 months ago - 3 years 11 months ago #40479 by juergen.scholl
Does the engine actually misfire? Did you do a crank pattern relearn?

If true misfires are present I suggest to check the engine's vacuum while cranking and at idle and to do a cylinder leak down test. Do you have the means to do in-cylinder-pressure /intake manifold pressure testing with a transducer?

Are the cylinders indicated as misfiring those that are controlled by the amf ?

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3 years 11 months ago #40480 by dgs000
Replied by dgs000 on topic p0300 on 2008 silverado 5.3
- Already performed a compression test on all cylinders, each held at 180psi
- Crack position relearn was performed and no change

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3 years 11 months ago #40481 by dgs000
Replied by dgs000 on topic p0300 on 2008 silverado 5.3
cylinders 1, 4, and 7 are the afm lifters but the afm only becomes active while at a cruising speed on 40mph, when engine starts all cylinders are running as a v8 engine

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3 years 11 months ago #40483 by juergen.scholl
Did you do a cylinder leak down test?

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3 years 11 months ago #40484 by Cheryl
Replied by Cheryl on topic p0300 on 2008 silverado 5.3
Betting it’s the cam that has damage. So how bad is the misfire? Does it feel rough

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3 years 11 months ago #40485 by juergen.scholl

Cheryl wrote: Betting it’s the cam that has damage. So how bad is the misfire? Does it feel rough


I imagine a bad cam would perform worst and manifest itself under high load/rpm as these are the conditions where a restriction will have greater effect.

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3 years 11 months ago #40487 by dgs000
Replied by dgs000 on topic p0300 on 2008 silverado 5.3
The misfire is rough, rides fine while actually moving, rides terrible at idel, the cam never had an issue with the old lifters so why would there be a new issue with new lifters and did not see any damage while roating the engine with no lifters in.

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3 years 11 months ago #40488 by juergen.scholl
Once More:

Perform a cylinder leak down test and do a running compression test at idle!

If you had a scope you may want to look at the secondary ignition traces and do in cylinder and vacuum testing.....

Have a look at egr and it's routing in the heads as well if applicable.

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3 years 11 months ago #40489 by dgs000
Replied by dgs000 on topic p0300 on 2008 silverado 5.3
Even tho all cylinders are holding air at 180psi during compression test you still think there is possibility of a air leak

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3 years 11 months ago - 3 years 11 months ago #40490 by juergen.scholl

dgs000 wrote: Even tho all cylinders are holding air at 180psi during compression test you still think there is possibility of a air leak


ABSOLUTELY!!

A compression test with a gauge will only show the (accumulated) peak pressure achieved during the 5, 6 puffs. There is a so called Schräder valve built into which will retain the pressure in the hose where the gauge is connected.

It is not a conclusive test at all regarding possible leakage.

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