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p1698 2000 dodge dakota sport 4x4 with a 318 v8

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4 years 5 months ago - 4 years 5 months ago #34895 by jetter3606
changed speed sensors , shift solenoid ,transmission computer ...still in limp mode with all gear indicator lights on checked power and grounds to tcm . doesn't seem to be turning on trans relay
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4 years 5 months ago #34897 by Chad
This is a comunication fault, between the PCM and TCM. Check for wire integrity between the two.



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4 years 5 months ago - 4 years 5 months ago #34906 by jetter3606
I checked continuity between the pcm and tcm on the white black and violet tan wires and it was good, Started truck and got a voltage reading of 2.5 vdc on each wire .. its suppossed to be 4.7 .. im not sure what the next step is in finding the low voltage issue . the wires go from the tcm into the wiring bundle going down firewall and return at the pcm
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4 years 5 months ago #34908 by Cheryl
Hope chad can post the flow chart and wiring diagrams. Possibly what ccd wire voltage is supposed to be
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4 years 5 months ago #34910 by Cheryl
Never mind I see the diagram.
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4 years 5 months ago #34911 by Cheryl
Just out of curiosity what does the ccd wires read at the abs module? Got a scope? Those two wires go to every other module
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4 years 5 months ago #34912 by Cheryl
Or just test at the data link connector
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4 years 5 months ago #34913 by jreardon
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4 years 5 months ago #34914 by jetter3606
yeah Im not sure what pin to check for voltage at the data link conn I think its pin 16 but unsure if its labeled or if thats the right spot to check all abs and other functions are normal with no codes just the p1698
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4 years 5 months ago - 4 years 5 months ago #34915 by jetter3606
i did check for continuity looking for a short between the two wires no continuity but had 600 .ohms of resistance between the two
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4 years 5 months ago #34916 by Cheryl
Pin 3 and 11 at dlc. Previous member posted a good article about ccd information. So transmission relay not turning on??
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4 years 5 months ago #34917 by Cheryl
It’s a dodge it needs a pcm lol. I’m going to check alldata for the code flowchart tomorrow
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4 years 5 months ago - 4 years 5 months ago #34918 by jetter3606
im working on this truck for my teenage stepson a friend at work brought it to me to try to fix because he gave up on it it but its been a real challenge and i dont give up easy in the mean time ...Ill try not to shoot it full of holes . Im not a big dodge fan so its all new to me thanks for the insight it really helps
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4 years 5 months ago #34919 by Chad
Flow chart:

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4 years 5 months ago - 4 years 5 months ago #34931 by jetter3606
I dont have a DRBIII scanner I did check the ABS connector and had the same 2.5 volts on the pins with the white black and violet tan wires . does this mean I need a new PCM or is there another way to verify the PCM with a volt meter or obII scanner . I noticed a P1687 code that just popped up also but I assume thats from my testing I did . not sure
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4 years 5 months ago #34934 by Cheryl
Step 4 in the chart is really the determining step to determine if the ccd bus is messed up. You could possibly use a voltmeter on the pci bus wire but you won’t see detail like you would with a scope. Then again you could do it in 2 places again and compare what you get. I’d check powers and grounds at pcm before calling it though
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4 years 5 months ago #34936 by VegasJAK
flow chart from jreardon post 3419 says if you have 2.5v on terminal 3 (vio/brn) wire and terminal 11 (wht/blk) wire you have a short between the two wires somewhere. Terminal 3 should be 2.45 and terminal 11 2.47

look for contact points on the wiring loom... where loom comes in contact with metal. do this before you start pulling wires apart or you may loose finding the contact first. keep your DVOM connected and touch the loom at possible contact points and watch the DVOM for any voltage change.

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4 years 5 months ago #34937 by jetter3606
I checked the Data link connector at pin 3 and 11,both had 2.5 VDC.same as all other spots checked .. not sure if this is a good reading or is it supposed to be the 4.7 vdc reference at the spots checked . there are no other issues with the truck other than the limp mode condition of the transmission .. it starts and runs normal so Im still unsure If I need to pick up the pcm from the junkyard and try it or not
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4 years 5 months ago #34938 by Cheryl
What color is key? If it’s grey it needs skim programming. If it’s black it’s no security programming
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4 years 5 months ago #34939 by jetter3606
my volt meter only reads to .o one had 2.4 actually and one had 2.5 at the datalink connector same as by the pcm, tcm ,and abs, inputs locations
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