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2006 Honda Acura

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10 Oct 2019 10:11 #34146 by robert.lesaca
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Im trying to help a friend with his 2006 Honda Acura TL. he has no drivability problems by far as he drives this car to work. initial scan resulted to the following DCs
1) 61-01 (Battery Voltage failure)
2) 83-01 (ECM/PCM relation failure)
3) 86-01 (CAN relation failure)
4) 112-01 (internal power source)

i asked him to bring his car on the week end when he has no work.. i hv not check for battery voltage or connector looseness/corrosion or anything of that sort. but someone out there might have come acroos something similar to these DTCs and can share his/her experience with these codes...thank you in advance.

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11 Oct 2019 11:13 #34174 by Tyler
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Did you get these out of the PCM, or ABS? CEL on? Because 83-1 is a fairly common code that only gets set in the ABS module. It's mostly a roadsign code, which almost always sets whenever there's a fault stored in the PCM. It sounds way worse than it is. :silly: Ignore it for now.

All the other codes could be set by low battery voltage, poor connections, whatever. TBH, all those codes sounds like symptoms of something else.

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11 Oct 2019 11:28 #34176 by robert.lesaca
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CEL, these were the current codes indicated; there were other DTCs, like :
1. 81-61 no signal from ODS unit
2. B1060, 1061 and 1831
it seems as if insufficient voltage at times is common to all. What I did was erased all and advised that when the CEL do come back to call me and only then will I check connectors, esp ABS module or even VSA, corrosion, etc. So far I have not gotten any calls yet.

I will update as soon as I get something...thanks.

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20 Oct 2019 08:46 #34393 by robert.lesaca
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Ok...i got a call from he owner. Although there are no DTCs present, the VSA light came on. Scanned and went live stream, though VSA switch indicated it was turning on and off, that VSA triangle light stayed on. There is brake fluid present and fuses seem ok though I will check the rest thoroughly...

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20 Oct 2019 09:29 #34394 by Tyler
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Ohhhhh now I know what happened. :lol: The battery went low, and the VSA lost it's zero calibration. The loss of calibration will cause the VSA light to stay on with no codes stored. Why doesn't Honda have a code for loss of calibration (like Toyota)? Because that'd be too easy. :silly:

New Level Auto has a pretty cool video on this exact issue:

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20 Oct 2019 09:34 #34395 by Noah
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This may not be the case with your car, but I have run into more than one Honda/Acura that refused to turn off the triangle VSA lamp until the steering angle and occupancy detection sensor were recalibrated after repairs to the ABS system.
Sometimes even just replacing a wheel sensor will require the calibration procedure.
In the case of the ODS relearn, you will need a capable scan tool, and a weight of known value.
Even the dumbest guy in the shop can be used assuming he knows his weight and can sit reasonably still for a short period of time ;)

"The circuits in cars are not nanby-pamby Chinese consumer electronics "

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20 Oct 2019 09:35 #34396 by Noah
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Tyler beat me to it, lol.

"The circuits in cars are not nanby-pamby Chinese consumer electronics "

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20 Oct 2019 12:42 #34404 by robert.lesaca
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I've seen his video earlier but unforunatel my Launch scanner does no have the neutral position memorizationtest. Would grounding pin#9 to pin#4 in BOB work as tried by some?

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20 Oct 2019 13:31 - 20 Oct 2019 13:31 #34406 by Tyler
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I've never tried that method? I've always used the VSA OFF button sequence.

From the Troubleshooter:

Do not touch the brake pedal during the following steps.

KOEO, ABS indicator should come on for two seconds then go off.

After ABS indicator goes off, press and release VSA OFF switch once within .5 seconds.

After ABS indicator comes on, push VSA OFF switch once within .5 seconds.

VSA indicator blinks twice then goes off in once second. When ABS and VSA indicators go off, procedure is finished.

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