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Open injector/misfire code on 2001 Dodge Durango 4.7

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31 Aug 2019 15:03 #33321 by Jclund
I have a VERY well maintained 2001 Dodge Durango 4.7 that’s throwing codes on # 2, 4, and 8. I’m attaching a photo of the codes and volt and ohm readings off each. Plugs and coil packs are new, injectors were cleaned. I’m thinking it’s the PCM (no code on 6, all evens share a harness). Is there something I’m missing? Could it be the TPS?
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31 Aug 2019 15:25 #33323 by guafa
Hi jclund,

I don't think is related with TPS. It only works when acelerating/decelerating.

Were those voltages measured with voltmeter? I would check directly on injectors.

I don't think neither is related with injector resistance. As you can see, injectors 5 and 7 have more resistance (which is suppose less current flowing through the coil) and they are not misfiring.

What other data do you have? Fuel trims, vaccum pressure, air flow, oxygen sensor readings.

What is the performance of engine/car at wot, idle, middle range?

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31 Aug 2019 15:43 #33325 by Jclund
The volts are read of the harness at each injector, the ohms are read off the injectors themselves. The open injector/misfire at 2 and 4 are intermittent, at 8 it’s persistent, rough idle, clear misfire, and stall. The voltage on 2, 4, and 8 are the only ones outside normal range. Vacuum pressure and air flow are normal, I have not tested the O2 sensor. I wouldn’t get an O2 sensor code?

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31 Aug 2019 16:10 #33326 by guafa
The O2 readings (and the others i mentioned) are for diagnostic purpose.

8 volts on some of the injectors has two posibilities.

The first is an injector power line issue (i would check with switch on, engine off) if 12 volts show up.

The second is that those injectors are being opened by pcm, more time than the others. Are you measuring peak to peak voltage (with scopemeter) or average voltage (with volmeter)?
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31 Aug 2019 16:39 #33328 by Jclund
Average, key on. What’s throwing me off is the normal at 6. I’m almost 100% + they share a common ground. Correct me if I’m wrong. A visual of the harness looks good.

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31 Aug 2019 17:04 #33329 by guafa
I don't know these specific engine/circuit. But all i have seen, have a common power line and pcm is in charge of "ground" (close the circuit or open the injector).

If you have 8 volts with key on and ENGINE OFF, you have a power issue. As you said, no injectors shorted or 0 ohms (by the way, you can power those injectors with a power wire coming from battery + and extreme care not to feed control line which comes from pcm).

I suggest you to check wiring hardness

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31 Aug 2019 17:10 - 31 Aug 2019 17:13 #33330 by guafa
Another posibility came to my mind.

With key on/engine off. You can have internal pcm bad drivers (which ground 2,4,8 injector individualy). They can be partially closing circuit.

To dircard this condition, you can unplug all injector in that bank and check if voltage rise 12v.
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