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Oil cap causing lean conditions?
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Oil caps are cheap, but you could prove/disprove this by covering over the valve cover while watching your trims. If you don't see a big improvement, then continue your search.
Do your trims remain high at idle and off idle? It sounds like you've covered vacuum leaks pretty well, wondering about a possible fuel issue.
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I know you said you have no codes, but this video shows how to use fuel trim to ID the type of lean condition you've got going on.
I'd be interested to see what the trim numbers and O2's look like at different loads, and maybe even get a fuel pressure reading.
I guess if the PCV system is pulling vacuum on the valve cover and the oil cap isn't sealing, it's conceivable that it could potentially cause a lean condition.
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Maybe disconnecting the battery and shorting the terminals together for few seconds would help make the computer forget about that learned fuel trim more effectively. Fords will keep the learned fuel cells for a while even after the problem is fixed. Maybe for some reason the scan tool KAM reset wasn't enough.
Did you happen to check under the dash for a tricky leak, or around the brake booster area?
Does your smoke machine have a flow gauge that would indicate if the system being tested is sealed?
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Any lack of power noted on the test drive? I'm still wondering about a fuel problem, despite the improvement in trims that you noted. Not trying to poke holes in your analysis, just thinking about other common lean issues these trucks had.
How much of an improvement between idle and 2500 RPM do you see? Maybe post the numbers?
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tribal599 wrote: I didn't record the results on the test drive. Under load there was drastic improvement s on LTFT. It aS under seven on both banks.
Yeah, that sure sounds like a significant improvement! Unless the short terms were super high at the same time, and I figure you'd have noticed that.
A quick and dirty test for fuel pressure would be the WOT throttle run, watching for the upstream O2 sensors to go rich during wide open throttle in first and second gears. If you see that, then I say we're really not worried about fuel pressure.
An outside chance would be a stuck open PCV valve, sucking hard on crankcase vapors, and pulling in unmetered air through seals and gaskets. You could test for this by pinching off the hose from the valve to the intake.
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There was a small vacuum leak that I found when spraying water. I can hear it get sucked in. It was located at the hose at the back of the intake along bank 2 side. Put a clamp on it but LTFT B1 26 and B2 30 only went down 19 & 25 and on some days 15 & 19.
Did a cold intake smoke test in the morning and no smoke was showing. Next is to check the PCV system. Even though I don't have a misfire I'm going to check for internal leaks. I'll update as soon as I have the results.
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The trims never improved by having all the PCV stuff blocked off?
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