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2009 Cobalt 2.2 Ecotech Crank No start

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09 May 2019 10:29 - 09 May 2019 13:20 #29443 by erieadams
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Had A 2009 Cobalt brought in for timing chain and ignition issue.
Replaced Timing chain. Original Key broke off inside ignition so replaced the complete Ignition not just tumbler and programmed new key.
Still have a crank no start tested all relays and fuses have spark have fuel spark does seem weak but main issue I am having trouble with is with my scan tool hooked up to read codes but when I go to live data if i crank the engine i lose power to obd2 port and have to release the key back to on position to reconnect I have checked all relays fuses inside and out and also grounds on engine all seem tight and not broken what can cause a obd2 port to lose power only when cranking engine also tach does not move during cranking so main reason wanting to view live data is to see if rpm is moving any suggestions
ALSO lose power to cig lighter during cranking as well so am I missing looking for bad ground someplace ?
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09 May 2019 14:16 #29448 by Chad
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Do you lose power on all of these fuses?



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09 May 2019 16:34 #29449 by erieadams
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yes it does wipers rear defrost radio aux outlet

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09 May 2019 16:45 #29450 by erieadams
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yes I lose power to those only in crank position

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09 May 2019 18:18 #29454 by Chad
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Does the Starter turn the engine?

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09 May 2019 21:28 #29458 by erieadams
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yes it turns just fine just loss of power to those fuses and relays during cranking and the no start of course

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10 May 2019 07:32 - 10 May 2019 07:36 #29483 by guafa
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Hi everyone,

I have a similar issue with a chevy HHR (pretty the same circuit). If your car has battery in the trunk, look for main power cable which comes from battery (+) to hood fuse box or the one which comes from battery (-) to body chasis.

I had to add a #4 cable from battery (-) to block in order to improve ground and decrease electronic noises.

Also main power cable was completely corroded and broken.
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10 May 2019 07:57 #29484 by guafa
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Check also for voltage between battery (+) & (-). Then between hood fuse box voltage input & block.

Voltage should be the same.

You can discard my theory quickly, by adding a second battery connected in parallel like this:

Battery (-) to block and battery (+) to hood fuse box voltage input.
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10 May 2019 09:30 - 10 May 2019 09:41 #29487 by Chad
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I would look at this splice, very closely.



Also, with the Negative Lead of your DVOM connected to Battery (-), touch the Red Lead to the Engine block while you are cranking. What voltage do you read? Touch the Red Lead to the Body, while cranking. What voltage to you read?

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10 May 2019 12:54 #29496 by erieadams
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while cranking with no charger voltage drops from 12.5 to 10ish at battery and at post by fuse block I also ran jumper cables from battery to fuse block and to ground on shock tower with no difference where exactly would that splice be you circled

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10 May 2019 14:36 - 10 May 2019 14:41 #29499 by Chad
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Did you read the voltage on the engine block, while cranking. I know this sounds funny. :blink: You wouldn't expect to ready ANY voltage on the engine block. But, If you have a bad engine ground, voltage cannot make it back to the battery. You WILL read voltage on engine block, with a bad engine ground. Same thing goes for the body.

where exactly would that splice be you circled


You'll have to follow the cable from the batter (+). I assume it will be very close to, or at, the fuse box. All I can say, for sure, is "Between the fuses and the battery. :huh:

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10 May 2019 17:21 #29503 by erieadams
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touching the engine while cranking i get either .1 or .2 volts nothing on chassis

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10 May 2019 17:24 #29504 by Chad
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Well, that leaves us at that splice/junction.

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10 May 2019 17:28 #29505 by Chad
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Trace the cable FROM the BATTERY and the cable FROM the STARTER. Find where they meet.

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10 May 2019 17:35 #29506 by erieadams
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thanks for the help Will check it first thing in the morning battery had died while trying so want it back up to full charge

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