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jeep grand cherokee wj 4.7 error code P0174

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5 years 1 month ago #28114 by dundy
good evening.
is it possible for the pcv valve to give me a error code P0174?

I changed the map sensor end . Idle air control


Freeze frame report generated by Torque for Android
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Vehicle VIN: Not present
Vehicle Manufacturer: Unknown
Vehicle Calibration ID: 56041869AB

Freeze frame information:
Fuel Status = 0 byte
Engine Load = 11,373 %
Engine Coolant Temperature = 94 °C
Fuel Trim Bank 1 Short Term = -2,344 %
Fuel Trim Bank 1 Long Term = 0 %
Fuel Trim Bank 2 Short Term = 32,812 %
Fuel Trim Bank 2 Long Term = 32,031 %
Intake Manifold Pressure = 5,802 psi
Engine RPM = 640 rpm
Speed (OBD) = 0 km/h


End of report.


Freeze frame report generated by Torque for Android
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Vehicle VIN: Not present
Vehicle Manufacturer: Unknown
Vehicle Calibration ID: 56041869AB

Freeze frame information:
Fuel Status = 0 byte
Engine Load = 16,078 %
Engine Coolant Temperature = 94 °C
Fuel Trim Bank 1 Short Term = 3,906 %
Fuel Trim Bank 1 Long Term = -5,469 %
Fuel Trim Bank 2 Short Term = 32,812 %
Fuel Trim Bank 2 Long Term = 32,031 %
Intake Manifold Pressure = 5,802 psi
Engine RPM = 1 024 rpm
Speed (OBD) = 14 km/h


End of report.


Freeze frame report generated by Torque for Android
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Vehicle VIN: Not present
Vehicle Manufacturer: Unknown
Vehicle Calibration ID: 56041869AB

Freeze frame information:
Fuel Status = 0 byte
Engine Load = 11,373 %
Engine Coolant Temperature = 92 °C
Fuel Trim Bank 1 Short Term = 13,281 %
Fuel Trim Bank 1 Long Term = 32,031 %
Fuel Trim Bank 2 Short Term = 32,812 %
Fuel Trim Bank 2 Long Term = 32,031 %
Intake Manifold Pressure = 5,221 psi
Engine RPM = 960 rpm
Speed (OBD) = 0 km/h


End of report.

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5 years 1 month ago #28120 by Tyler
Not in my opinion. Your 4.7L uses a speed density system, which isn't bothered by stuff like unmetered air or PCV leaks. Because both banks show equally lean, I think you're looking for something that'll impact both banks equally.

Do the fuel trims improve off idle? Is there a noticeable lack of power driving down the road?
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5 years 1 month ago #28123 by juergen.scholl
The map reading reading is not indicative of pcv/egr/airleak...

As Tyler pointed out this wasn't even toaffect fuel trim eith this type of engine management.

What are the O2 readings, does the B2S1 react to induced air or gasoline?.an you do an injector balance test? Is there lack of power?

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5 years 1 month ago #28139 by dundy
There is a lack of power while driving. There is a break in the engine. I forgot to say the fuel filter was changed. Long term change Little when moving

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5 years 1 month ago - 5 years 1 month ago #28140 by dundy
When accelerating the Up to 60 mileAfter 60 miles starts to break. When the accelerator pedal is placed, the motor seems to stop abruptly. At idling speed, the revolutions vary between 520 and 630.
The Ball in the PCV valve stands not as it should hang on one side. When I put my finger on the hole and remove it it starts to bounce back. I Guess that's not normal. The Valve is ordered but it takes time to arrive in Bulgaria
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5 years 1 month ago #28146 by Andy.MacFadyen
A bit strange as initially only one bank is lean then in later captures both banks are seriously lean. As already posted the fuel control on MAP engines really isn't affected to a huge degree by air by-passing the throttle. It might be worth look to see if the throttle position sensor output looks okay on you app.
I would be thinking fuel flow but as you have changed the fuel filter it would need to be a pressure regulator or in-tank issue. A blocked exhaust can cause all sorts of lean and rich codes.

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5 years 1 month ago #28181 by John Curtis
I can send you a diagnostic tree if you'd like. Maybe that can help you fix your problem.

Making Pressure Differential Sensors (PDA Sensors) for pressure pulse diagnostics.
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5 years 1 month ago #28223 by dundy
Yes I would be very grateful

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5 years 1 month ago #28269 by Tyler

dundy wrote: There is a lack of power while driving. There is a break in the engine. I forgot to say the fuel filter was changed. Long term change Little when moving


I think a fuel pressure test is your next best move. If at all possible, rig the gauge onto the windshield so you can monitor the fuel pressure during a test drive.

I'm not positive what the specification is, but I seem to remember 40 PSI. :unsure: If it's low at idle and gets lower under load, you're on the right track for a fuel delivery issue.

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5 years 1 month ago #28278 by dundy
I cleaned the petrol injectors a day Ago. And I noticed something strange when running O2 sensor Bank 2 drops to 0 volts and remains so. Long End short trim is rising to 32%. As on bank 2 The lower sensor changes the indicators from 0% to 32%, and the top does not move from 32%. After the test the revolutions ranged from 670 to 580. A before the test were stable at 660

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5 years 1 month ago #28279 by dundy
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