Longer than normal Crank time
- Nelixuk2003
- Topic Author
- Offline
- Junior Member
- Posts: 38
- Thank you received: 2
Just thought I would put this out there, I have not done any Diagnostic or troubleshooting as yet.
Based in the UK and the vehicle in question is a Peugeot 4007, 2011, 2.2 HDi. the engine is Peugeot/Ford.
I've owned the car for a little over a year and not had any other issues with it. It normally starts within approx 1-2 Secs of cranking, however, over the last month or 2 when the engine is cold such as first thing on a morning or if it's left for several hours it can take 4-5 seconds of cranking before it starts. Once started it will start as normal (1-2 Sec crank) for the rest of the day as long as it has not cooled back down to ambient temps.
I know its not a great difference but just wanted to try and catch any possible issue early.
I must admit that it is due a service so Fuel, Air and oil filters will be changed soon and an oil change at the same time.
I'll plug the Verus Pro into it and see if there are any codes, no Check Engine light on the dash so not expecting to see any codes.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
I would check first fuel tank level, then glow plugs, then rail fuel pressure.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Andy.MacFadyen
- Offline
- Moderator
- Posts: 3353
- Thank you received: 1031
Glow plugs should really be checked with a current clamp but because they use such a high current you can get a fair ideaif the glow pug relay is working just watching the battery voltage drop at key on.
The low pressure pump output pressure can be read from the sensor on the fuel filter with a scantool. Some common rail diesels have 3 fuel pumps, an in tank pump an under bonnet pump and the high pressure
However as diesel age the leak off becomes excessive and I strongly suspect this is your problem. The injector correction value pids may give you a clue to this but I would actually measure the injector leakage. You can improvise the kit required to do this test but the kits to do it are quite cheap on ebay.
" We're trying to plug a hole in the universe, what are you doing ?. "
(Walter Bishop Fringe TV show)
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Andy.MacFadyen
- Offline
- Moderator
- Posts: 3353
- Thank you received: 1031
" We're trying to plug a hole in the universe, what are you doing ?. "
(Walter Bishop Fringe TV show)
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Nelixuk2003
- Topic Author
- Offline
- Junior Member
- Posts: 38
- Thank you received: 2
I have one of those kits Andy, bought it but never used it.......Yet!
Although it's 2011 it only has 46,000 Miles on the clock so would not have thought it would be a pump issue, you never know though.
I'll do the service and decide from there which path I will be following, just thought I would get a second opinion before diving in, I'm not a pro mechanic just a self-taught enthusiast.
Thanks again guys
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Nelixuk2003
- Topic Author
- Offline
- Junior Member
- Posts: 38
- Thank you received: 2
They were changed within the last year but I’ll check them anyway, what sort of amperage should they drawing?
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Andy.MacFadyen
- Offline
- Moderator
- Posts: 3353
- Thank you received: 1031
" We're trying to plug a hole in the universe, what are you doing ?. "
(Walter Bishop Fringe TV show)
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
I don't have that verus pro, but i suppose you can see fuel pressure and glow plug operation on it.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
OK I was incorrect the Zeus is a rebadged Verus Edge. Don't know if it's the same as the Pro? I didn't start using Snap-On till the Solus Edge.
Hindsight I should've kept the Solus Edge and went with the stand alone scope / component tester snap on has. As I heard they won't get rid of the component tester anytime soon as it's a seller.
I did find the photo. See below.
Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Nelixuk2003
- Topic Author
- Offline
- Junior Member
- Posts: 38
- Thank you received: 2
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
There is a quick test you can do to discard fuel leakage (also fuel pressure regulator and anti-return valve) in low fuel pressure lines.
Before start engine, turn ignition switch on and off until you feel the lift pump is working under pressure. You can feel a different sound when pressure changes.
At that point, you start the engine a can notice the delay.
Is the lift pump manual? Then manually pump until you feel pressure and then start the engine.
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- Nelixuk2003
- Topic Author
- Offline
- Junior Member
- Posts: 38
- Thank you received: 2
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.
- ScannerDanner
- Offline
- Administrator
- Religion says do, Jesus says done!
- Posts: 937
- Thank you received: 485
Sorry, I need to be here more to see the strengths of my guys! I can see yours.
Don't be a parts changer!
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.