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2008 Pontiac Torrent 3.4L U code 0101.. Tech 2 has no comm with TCM

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6 years 7 months ago - 6 years 7 months ago #26461 by jman26063
Hello all... Ill try to keep short and to the point

An unrelated wheel speed sensor problem led me to plug in Tech 2 when I noticed no Comm with TCM. Further scan revealed a U0101 Lost Com with TCM.

I do not own a scope and would like to dig into this a little, do you suggest a start at DLC for maybe a resistance check?

Thanks in advance.

PS I have Mitchell Diagrams and they are confusing me a little but thats something ill figure out
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6 years 7 months ago #26468 by chief eaglebear
hi sir I guess the classic question would be can you communicate with other modules

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6 years 7 months ago - 6 years 7 months ago #26469 by jman26063
Yes sir, All modules communicating except TCM, as well we have no drive ability issues that im aware of


edit: Except intermittent Service AWD which points me towards the rear diff control module for tetsing I guess
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6 years 7 months ago #26473 by chief eaglebear
Ok the whole network is not down were getting somewhere we just need a little better direction let's start by verifying power and grounds to the tcm I believe you should not see more than .1 mv on ground idonothave Mitchell so if you can put that up it would help I believe the tranny needs inputs from engine i.e. map ect load calculations etc

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6 years 7 months ago #26475 by jman26063
Powers and grounds are good a TCM connector unplugged and front probed

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6 years 7 months ago #26476 by jman26063
Quick observation I made is that I have 2 sets of GMLAN Data lines coming into connector I am assumin 1 in and 1 out. Across 1 pair I show 133 Ohms and across the other I show 120

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6 years 7 months ago #26478 by chief eaglebear
YOU CAN MEASURE CAN BUS RESISTANCE AT DLC I BELIEVE THAT MIGHT GIVE YOU DIRECTION IF IT IS A MODULE PROBLEM BUT LETS TALK ABOUT THAT INTERMITENT ISSUE ALSO IF YOU CAN PUT UP MITCHELL DIAGRAM I GOT SOME WAY MORE EXPERIENCED GUYS GETTING READY TO CHIME IN HUAAHH LOVE THIS STUFF

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6 years 7 months ago #26480 by jman26063
I did figure that out... at DLC with TCM connectedf I got the proper 60 Ohms, it was reading as an open with TCN disconnected ..... but I am away from car at the moment. I fear I bent a pin on TCM plugging it in and ran to get an inspection mirror

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6 years 7 months ago #26483 by chief eaglebear
well we are getting to the limit of my knowledge I guess first think I would do is try to look at a schematic and see what is what but did you mention the AWD is cutting out or something scoping the can lines might be in order to see if you have good can lines one thing I would also look at is the topology of the network what is connected to what
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6 years 7 months ago #26484 by jman26063
Ok thank you for replies. I will try to figure out how to get Mitchell Diagrams uploaded I am new here

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6 years 7 months ago #26490 by cheryl hartkorn
use a test light not just a multi meter front probing. that doesnt load test the powers/grounds. you really dont have to test the can lines any further. you already did prove you had no opens with the tcm connected. if the powers/grounds light a test light put a tcm in it. itll need programmed
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6 years 7 months ago #26502 by jman26063
Ok thank you.. Just to clarify since I do have the proper 60 ohms at dlc that rules out sata lines and you are saying if test light lights on tcm power and grounds at connector than that pinpoints TCM? And also is it really possible to have a bad TCM with no shift issues. That is what makes me worry about swapping the TCM.

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6 years 7 months ago #26511 by chief eaglebear
seems like checking any and or all driver functions its hard for me to be conclusive I have to know why the tcm doesn't work or what part seems like a driver or something speaking to AWD function those two thing tells me to check those signsl I know some have a lot of experience but if I don't understand why it needs to be replaced I become disturbed there has to be a reason a signal a voltage out of range a bad ground etc

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6 years 7 months ago #26513 by jman26063
Thank you again, I did repair a damaged wheel speed sensor wire last night. Im doubtful that was the cause but we will see

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