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Power loss
5 years 4 months ago #25645
by Captiva
Power loss was created by Captiva
2004 Dodge 3500 5.9 Cummins HO. 1800-2000rpm, 60-80mph
Power losses, motor runs but performance drops off, power on-power off surging feel. Main fuel rail pressure is 16410, boost is 39.7 (less atmospheric). What could cause this? Bad ecm ground, bad crankshaft position sensor-bad ground? Apps? Has new map sensor (high), new fuel filter, tons of different fuel treatment
Thank you in advance, Merry Christmas!
Power losses, motor runs but performance drops off, power on-power off surging feel. Main fuel rail pressure is 16410, boost is 39.7 (less atmospheric). What could cause this? Bad ecm ground, bad crankshaft position sensor-bad ground? Apps? Has new map sensor (high), new fuel filter, tons of different fuel treatment
Thank you in advance, Merry Christmas!
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5 years 4 months ago #25646
by Ninjaxchicken
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Does that say 1 amp on the fuel pump
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5 years 4 months ago #25650
by Tyler
It does, and that's (surprisingly) normal for these trucks. :silly: It's a misleading PID - the actual lift pump draw is higher than that.
Captiva, did you happen to save that data file? Any chance you could send it to me?
You need to be watching the actual fuel pressure, fuel pressure setpoint and the fuel pressure regulator % during the surging. That setpoint PID is good, but doesn't tell you if the rail pressure is matching it. WIth your foot solidly on the floor, the rail pressure should get to around 23,000 PSI.
This honestly sounds exactly like a fuel pressure regulator solenoid problem. Dodge calls it the FCA, Fuel Control Actuator, whatever. :lol: When these start to fail, you'll be able to watch the regulator % chase the rail pressure back and forth. This is because the solenoid pintle is sticking, and requiring more and more magnetic field strength to move.
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Ninjaxchicken wrote: Does that say 1 amp on the fuel pump
It does, and that's (surprisingly) normal for these trucks. :silly: It's a misleading PID - the actual lift pump draw is higher than that.
Captiva, did you happen to save that data file? Any chance you could send it to me?
You need to be watching the actual fuel pressure, fuel pressure setpoint and the fuel pressure regulator % during the surging. That setpoint PID is good, but doesn't tell you if the rail pressure is matching it. WIth your foot solidly on the floor, the rail pressure should get to around 23,000 PSI.
This honestly sounds exactly like a fuel pressure regulator solenoid problem. Dodge calls it the FCA, Fuel Control Actuator, whatever. :lol: When these start to fail, you'll be able to watch the regulator % chase the rail pressure back and forth. This is because the solenoid pintle is sticking, and requiring more and more magnetic field strength to move.
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5 years 4 months ago #25664
by Tyler
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5 years 4 months ago #25694
by chief eaglebear
Replied by chief eaglebear on topic Power loss
hi tyler wonder if we can see a good wave of the fuel pressure regulator should these wave forms be more steady with a good solenoid
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5 years 4 months ago #25710
by Tyler
Yeah, they'll be much smoother with a working solenoid. The ECM will have no trouble getting and maintaining the rail pressure it wants.
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chief eaglebear wrote: hi tyler wonder if we can see a good wave of the fuel pressure regulator should these wave forms be more steady with a good solenoid
Yeah, they'll be much smoother with a working solenoid. The ECM will have no trouble getting and maintaining the rail pressure it wants.
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