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check engine and AT lights activate upon flooring the accelerator pedal

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7 years 7 months ago #23794 by danield
I think whatever problem we have is connected to that MAF/IAT sensor or something is shorting it. Hopefully it's not damaging the sensor.

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7 years 7 months ago #23796 by danield
The same code didn't come back(P2138), but other codes showed. Here's the shot of those codes, sorry for not specifying that yesterday.
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7 years 7 months ago #23797 by Tyler

danield wrote: The same code didn't come back(P2138), but other codes showed. Here's the shot of those codes, sorry for not specifying that yesterday.


Ohhhhh OK! Gotcha. I dunno if I should be disappointed or excited? :silly:

I'd like to leave the jumper in and test for voltage at the MAF/IAT or the BARO sensor, if that's OK with you. Either one, doesn't matter. Check all wires and let me know what you find. :cheer:

I feel like we're still circling around a broken sensor ground wire. :angry:

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7 years 7 months ago #23798 by Tyler
Info dump for my benefit, and anyone else following along. :lol: Finally figured out why this APP has a power feed, thanks to the Snappy Troubleshooter. It's been bugging me, since most APP's use two potentiometers with no power feed.

Turns out, the APP1 signal is a duty cycle. :silly: APP2 is a more conventional linear voltage signal. APP2 is supposed to go from around 1.0V with the pedal released, to around 3.5V fully depressed. APP1 should be about 6% fully released.

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7 years 7 months ago #23806 by danield
I don't think my harness has the same color wires as the diagram your using. Please tell me if I'm jumping this right. This were the reads at the MAF/IAT with the jumper at the APP.
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7 years 7 months ago #23807 by danield
If they're wrong, please tell me where to put them.

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7 years 7 months ago #23813 by Tyler
The harness doesn't match? :huh: I'm pretty sure it's the same... Here's the OE diagram with pin colors and positions in the connector:



The colors and positions seem OK to me?

It looks like you've got the white jumped to the green/yellow? Remove that and instead jump the solid yellow wire to ground. The battery negative post would be best, but that'll likely involve several jumper wires. :lol: A body ground would likely work, if going to the battery isn't possible. One of the brake booster studs, or the door latch striker are usually good candidates.
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7 years 7 months ago #23814 by danield
This jump was the only one different, the first reads were from the right black to yellow jump. I'll put them back and try again.

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7 years 7 months ago #23833 by danield
Ok, here we go again. The live data is with KOEO and KOER, look at how that temperature changes to freezing -40°when the car is on. Now, the yellow wire is grounded to the battery negative. Here are the screenshots of the voltage reads with KOEO.

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7 years 7 months ago #23854 by danield
Nothing for me today Mr. Tyler? I hope all is well.

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7 years 7 months ago #23946 by Tyler
Hey Daniel! I haven't forgotten about this one, just got overwhelmed at work. :angry: I'll get back to this ASAP.

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7 years 7 months ago #23968 by danield
No problem Mr. Tyler, I'm in Florida until Wednesday so I took a break until then. I'll be waiting for your next step. Thank you and I hope the load lifts a little at work.

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7 years 6 months ago #24076 by danield
In back Mr. Tyler, ready whenever you are. Thank you

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7 years 6 months ago #24082 by Dave101
Tyler-correct me if I'm wrong, but the IAT sensor -40F is this bias voltage or "limp home mode"?

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7 years 6 months ago #24113 by danield
Waiting on you Mr. Tyler, what's the next step?

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