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06 Chrysler 300 with p0135

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8 years 11 months ago - 8 years 11 months ago #2409 by chris.arriazola
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Hello Im new to the form so let me know if Im doing this correctly. Im working on a 06 chrysler 300 with 2.7 engine vin R. Have a multiple cylinder misfire and p0135 in memory . Ive tested my circuit to to 02 sensor and found that the heater control wire has max of 10 volts when activated. My bank 2 rises to batt voltage. I tested the wire for resistance and all looks good. I also cut the wire to isolate any false reading and i have 10v at the pcm. I have tested powers and grounds at the pcm and everything looks normal. Any Ideas? I put a scope on heater control on bank 2 to compare with bank 1 and my control drops to 0 volts on my bank 1 when connected to the 02 sensor and rises to 10 volts when disconnected.
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8 years 11 months ago #2435 by Tyler
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Hey Chris! Just posting a diagram for anyone else following along:



In case anyone's not familiar, these are power-side switched heaters, different from the ground-side switched heaters we're used to on most other makes/models.

I put a scope on heater control on bank 2 to compare with bank 1 and my control drops to 0 volts on my bank 1 when connected to the 02 sensor and rises to 10 volts when disconnected.


Have you tried using a test light on the bank one heater power and ground circuits? I'm asking because what you're saying here is describing a voltage drop in the control circuit. Your resistance test passed, but that doesn't mean there isn't an issue when the circuit is activated. The test light will (hopefully) load the circuit sufficiently to expose any wiring issues. If the test light works, then we may move up to a bigger bulb.

I like the idea of using substitute loads in this case, because I'm not sure how this circuit will behave with a potentially open O2 heater. The PCM controls the power, and it may be using some kind of bias voltage to check circuit integrity before turning the heater driver on. Speaking of, have you tried resistance testing the O2 heater itself?

The multiple cylinder miss may or may not be related to the P0135... Observing scan data during the misfire would determine that. If you haven't seen it already, this ScannerDanner video discusses Chrysler O2's and how picky they can be:

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8 years 11 months ago #2437 by Noah
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Hi Chris, welcome to the forum.
Tyler beat me to it! I also like the idea of loading the circuit down with a bulb.
Sure looks like a voltage drop issue, since you cut the wire at the PCM, It'd just about have to be in the connector or the PCM itself.

"Ground cannot be checked with a 10mm socket"

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8 years 11 months ago #2444 by chris.arriazola
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I did use a test light to load the circuit but its not as bright as the bank 2. Ive been comparing both on a scope and notice the voltage reading are way different. Both control wires drop voltage but only bank 2 rises to battery voltage bank 1 only reaches 4 volts plugged in and 10 volts un plugged . I also swapped 02 sensors to see if fault moved from 1 to 2 but no change. Im new at testing with scope so want to make sure im testing correctly. Im moving toward a regulator problem in pcm. What you think?

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8 years 11 months ago #2468 by Tyler
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chris.arriazola wrote: I did use a test light to load the circuit but its not as bright as the bank 2. Ive been comparing both on a scope and notice the voltage reading are way different. Both control wires drop voltage but only bank 2 rises to battery voltage bank 1 only reaches 4 volts plugged in and 10 volts un plugged . I also swapped 02 sensors to see if fault moved from 1 to 2 but no change. Im new at testing with scope so want to make sure im testing correctly. Im moving toward a regulator problem in pcm. What you think?


Yep, looks like you're testing it right to me! The 4V plugged in but 10V unplugged is REALLY telling.

Good eye on the test light, too. If you've done the same test at the cut PCM wire, and got the same results, then it sure looks like a PCM. Like Noah said, the last check would be for a burned/spread PCM pin.

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