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Rich and lean at the same time
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This truck is running OK (slight rich miss at idle) but definitely gets bad gas mileage (12 mpg HWY). the only problem I can find is that the computer is opening the purge solenoid all the time even at idle. I unplug it but the rich fuel trim problem continues and makes no difference in fuel economy.
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If you raise the RPMs what do the fuel trims do then?
Confirm what it's not, and fix what it is!
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Rich and lean codes at the same time do have 3 main causes:
1- timing jumped ( on one bank)
2 - plugged exhaust on dual systems
3 - evap purge solenoid stuck open ( this affects both banks equally, not
differentially)
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Short term B2 bounces +2.0% to -3% (LT +15)
Timing at idle 10-17* ( at 300 rpm 23*)
Load at Idle 35%. Load at 3000 rpm 21% (parked)
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1. goes into CL with in 30 sec's of starting no matter how cold temperature is. (engine temp sensor accurate and test good)
2. Will not pass evap test. " PCM unable to control engine RPM" So I replaced IAC and got the same problem only worse drivablity. Computer would randomly hold RPM above 1500 (like having cruise control stuck on). Had to use brake and clutch to stall engine then it returns to normal RPM. Cleaned and put old IAC back on and it works better than the new one but will not pass test for evap.
3. this truck has old school timing. Not variable valve timing. I can't imagine it going mechanically out and still be able to run at all.
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The rest of the Evap system seems to be good from the carbon canister to vent valve to vacuum testing the tank sensor and cap.
the other mechanics in the shop believe that the computer is messed up and I should replace that next. I have wasted so much time and parts on this truck I want to make sure I have exhausted all other options before I get a computer.
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Fuel pressure tests good and does not bled off when turned off
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