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1994 Lexus LS400 Crank- but No Spark and No Start
7 years 8 months ago - 7 years 8 months ago #1576
by bazzan
1994 Lexus LS400 Crank- but No Spark and No Start was created by bazzan
Located in Freeport, Bahamas and no certified or knowledgeable Lexus mechanic around.
For several weeks while driving dash console began to work intermittently. Also starter at times would seem as if it was locking up.
A week ago i bought a new battery (NAPA 880 CCA) and installed. When I started vehicle, got what sounded like a loud noise. Turned off vehicle and restarted again, this time without a problem. Drove to work and when ready to leave, vehicle turn over but wont start.
Towed home. Check for fuel pressure by opening screw on rail. seem low so i checked fuel filter and replaced because somewhat clogged.
Fuel pressure seem to improve at rail.
Pulled spark plugs on both side and no spark. Came across ScannerDanner on Youtube and followed his instruction on testing ignition coils and ignition igniters. Got spark from both ignition coils but cant get spark when cranking vehicle.
Brother have a working 1990 Lexus LS400 and a working engine and transmission pulled from a wrecked 1992 Lexus LS400 in sitting on a pallet in his yard.
borrowed his Crank sensor from working vehicle and tried on my vehicle. Still no spark and no start at coil or plugs except when doing test.
A friend who works at Catepillar told me that I need to jump pins and try to wash engine lights for code, but more than likely i have to test my Cam Shaft Sensors.
ScannerDanner responded on YouTube that the "Next step, we need to see if the ECU is alive by testing the 5v reference circuit."
Need to know how to do either of the two.
For several weeks while driving dash console began to work intermittently. Also starter at times would seem as if it was locking up.
A week ago i bought a new battery (NAPA 880 CCA) and installed. When I started vehicle, got what sounded like a loud noise. Turned off vehicle and restarted again, this time without a problem. Drove to work and when ready to leave, vehicle turn over but wont start.
Towed home. Check for fuel pressure by opening screw on rail. seem low so i checked fuel filter and replaced because somewhat clogged.
Fuel pressure seem to improve at rail.
Pulled spark plugs on both side and no spark. Came across ScannerDanner on Youtube and followed his instruction on testing ignition coils and ignition igniters. Got spark from both ignition coils but cant get spark when cranking vehicle.
Brother have a working 1990 Lexus LS400 and a working engine and transmission pulled from a wrecked 1992 Lexus LS400 in sitting on a pallet in his yard.
borrowed his Crank sensor from working vehicle and tried on my vehicle. Still no spark and no start at coil or plugs except when doing test.
A friend who works at Catepillar told me that I need to jump pins and try to wash engine lights for code, but more than likely i have to test my Cam Shaft Sensors.
ScannerDanner responded on YouTube that the "Next step, we need to see if the ECU is alive by testing the 5v reference circuit."
Need to know how to do either of the two.
Last edit: 7 years 8 months ago by bazzan.
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7 years 8 months ago - 7 years 8 months ago #1587
by bazzan
Replied by bazzan on topic 1994 Lexus LS400 Crank- but No Spark and No Start
followed up with the instructions on jumping and obtaining code. Got a code 12
pulled plugs to Camshaft sensors and the resistance between the terminals. about 1150 ohms on both.
really stuck now. Any other recommendations.
Only option left is testing the 5v reference circuit if I can get instructions on doing so.
pulled plugs to Camshaft sensors and the resistance between the terminals. about 1150 ohms on both.
really stuck now. Any other recommendations.
Only option left is testing the 5v reference circuit if I can get instructions on doing so.
Last edit: 7 years 8 months ago by bazzan.
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7 years 8 months ago #1696
by Noah
Here's a free video where Paul walks us through a no start on a Chevy Cavalier. It shows how to check for a 5v ref. feed.
Do you have the definition for a Code 12 for those of us without pre OBD2 Lexus experience?
"Ground cannot be checked with a 10mm socket"
Replied by Noah on topic 1994 Lexus LS400 Crank- but No Spark and No Start
Here's a free video where Paul walks us through a no start on a Chevy Cavalier. It shows how to check for a 5v ref. feed.
Do you have the definition for a Code 12 for those of us without pre OBD2 Lexus experience?
"Ground cannot be checked with a 10mm socket"
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7 years 8 months ago #1721
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I googled code 12 and it comes up with "rpm signal circuit fault". have you tested the cam sensor yet?
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7 years 8 months ago #1722
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also do you own a scope? if not guess we will have to "ohm" the sensors.
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7 years 8 months ago #1728
by Noah
This video on the free channel is a 1991 LS400 with a no spark condition.
I'm not suggesting your's is going to be exactly the same, but I'm sure you'll find it useful.
"Ground cannot be checked with a 10mm socket"
Replied by Noah on topic 1994 Lexus LS400 Crank- but No Spark and No Start
This video on the free channel is a 1991 LS400 with a no spark condition.
I'm not suggesting your's is going to be exactly the same, but I'm sure you'll find it useful.
"Ground cannot be checked with a 10mm socket"
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7 years 8 months ago #1729
by Caritech
Replied by Caritech on topic 1994 Lexus LS400 Crank- but No Spark and No Start
He tried the bypass test and got spark. This is a 1uz? How many wires are on the cam and crank sensors?
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7 years 8 months ago #1731
by ScannerDanner
Don't be a parts changer!
Replied by ScannerDanner on topic 1994 Lexus LS400 Crank- but No Spark and No Start
This is a none bypass type ignition system. The ECU processes cam and crank signals then communicates this with the igniter. The reason I wanted to know about the 5v ref circuit is to make sure the computer is alive.
Checking for injector pulse would be helpful here too but some of these Toyota systems need the IGF signal (generated by a firing coil) for injection pulse to take place.
Checking for injector pulse would be helpful here too but some of these Toyota systems need the IGF signal (generated by a firing coil) for injection pulse to take place.
Don't be a parts changer!
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7 years 8 months ago #1739
by Caritech
Replied by Caritech on topic 1994 Lexus LS400 Crank- but No Spark and No Start
Yeah it's not a bypass system but he followed the igniter test vid and got spark. Could a rpm signal be imitated with a test light on these? I have the similar situation with the 2jz and tried test light to battery (+'ve) to crank sensor signal (KOEO)and the pump came on, only ones though, no spark.
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