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[Solved]2jz no start

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9 years 9 months ago #1248 by Caritech
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MREL power side switches the EFI relay to feed the b2 and +B. Fuel pump is triggered off FC and VC is power supply for tps etc. PSW is powersteering pressure switch, ELS is load sense and ELS2 is for integration relay.

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9 years 9 months ago - 9 years 9 months ago #1249 by 1mouse3
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what is marked as TDCL is a oem data link, this pin out of the connector and if you got a tool to up to it that be great

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9 years 9 months ago #1250 by 1mouse3
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thanks for the feed back

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9 years 9 months ago #1251 by Caritech
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No tool. I'll have to ground the te pin. Doing the job on spare time so as I get time I do a part so forgive if I can't provide all information. Thanks for the help.

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9 years 9 months ago #1252 by 1mouse3
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so as you say there is a output on the 3 idt triggers of the ecm and not at the ignitor, so what happen if you jump wires between the two

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9 years 9 months ago #1253 by Caritech
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1mouse3 wrote: so as you say there is a output on the 3 idt triggers of the ecm and not at the ignitor, so what happen if you jump wires between the two


The output needs to come from the igniter to the ECM. On a crank, backprobing the ECM harness it seems to me that the transistor is coming on but the signal is no where near 0-5V. As I said test light to battery (+ve) to igt's at igniter harness fired the coils.

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9 years 9 months ago - 9 years 9 months ago #1254 by 1mouse3
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whet is the voltage if the igniter is unpluged
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9 years 9 months ago #1255 by 1mouse3
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if no change at of the outputs, I want you to pull the cover off the ecm and locate these control fets and do tests at them.

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9 years 9 months ago #1256 by Caritech
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1mouse3 wrote: whet is the voltage if the igniter is unpluged


0V with the igniter unplugged, a few mV plugged in.

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9 years 9 months ago #1264 by 1mouse3
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ok so the voltage we are seeing is feedback from the igniter and is enough to drive the first transistor. so what we are needing to do is trace down this regulator, this my guess what we would be dealing with. The emitter off the pnp is what will lead you to the output of the regulator, I would like to know if the regulator has a 12v and ground



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9 years 9 months ago #1337 by 1mouse3
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ran into useful info that started by me looking at my brothers car a lexus gs300 jzs161 a sister to this toyota crown jzs171 the motor came from, this came from my scan tool giving the two choices and asking if I was using the 17 toyota connector or 16 dlc connector. Being sisters would means there similar even tho being slightly different, that made me looking into the similarities of the connect. I came up with this diagram so you can hook up a standard 16 dlc

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9 years 9 months ago #1486 by Caritech
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Sorry for the silence guys. Finally got back to the car and made a vid of the cam and crank signals. The owner got a working igniter and we got no difference. I am getting 4.5V at the igt's KOEO and cranking (no ECM response) @ ECM with igniter plugged in now. I tried a bypass test with test light to battery (+ve)and the fuel pump came on (once).

I grounded Te1 and E1 and only got 21 (O2 sensor) but that's expected because exhaust isn't connected and O2 is unplugged.

ECM looking like the suspect guys.

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9 years 9 months ago - 9 years 9 months ago #1632 by Caritech
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Yet to find a replacement ECM but I'm still looking at it as my prime suspect. I got good 5v ref, grounds are <100mV on crank, cam and crank signals are present but the ECM just isn't responding.
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9 years 9 months ago #1785 by 1mouse3
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but internally you are not getting the 5v ref for ignition control but could be because we missed a power, that is why I gave you some info to trace it down and maybe repair the computer if there is a fault with a component. if you can find another computer that is another option

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9 years 9 months ago #1790 by Caritech
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The ECM igt signal was 5v one day on the scope with the igniter plugged in and another day it showed 0v.

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9 years 9 months ago #1791 by 1mouse3
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when it was 5v did it fire the coils

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9 years 9 months ago #1792 by Caritech
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No

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9 years 9 months ago #1794 by 1mouse3
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did you get a pulse on the single feed

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9 years 9 months ago #1796 by Caritech
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No pulse just flat 5v

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9 years 9 months ago #1797 by 1mouse3
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I say the best test to do would be on the signal control fet for proper function in the ecm

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