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2008 e350 major runability issues
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3 months 3 weeks ago #64323
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i have an 08 e350 brought to me that has been at another shop for a while. when i got it it had codes p061b( Internal Control Module Torque Calculation Performance), p2105(tac system forced engine shut down) and p2107(tac module processor). van would start and run for a short time then stall, acting like running out of fuel. other shop replaced pcm, throttle body, accelerator pedal, mass air flow sensor and oxygen sensors along with reprogramming pcm that i know of. i have no clue what problems the van started with.
running van watching data i noticed o2 sensor readings and mass air flow sensor readings freeze up around the time van starts acting up and stalls. somwtimes i can just turn switch on wiith out trying to start and mass air flow sensor reads like van is running, sometimes around 4 grams/second, sometimes around 40 grams/second without anything happening. test with vantage and get different readings at mass air flow sensor or pcm than what scanner is showing. when scanner is showing high readings with engine off i can unplug sensor and readings show no change on scanner.
i am thinking they got a bad pcm but do you feel the readings i am seeing is enough to say bad pcm or is there something else i need to test?
thanks for any help.
running van watching data i noticed o2 sensor readings and mass air flow sensor readings freeze up around the time van starts acting up and stalls. somwtimes i can just turn switch on wiith out trying to start and mass air flow sensor reads like van is running, sometimes around 4 grams/second, sometimes around 40 grams/second without anything happening. test with vantage and get different readings at mass air flow sensor or pcm than what scanner is showing. when scanner is showing high readings with engine off i can unplug sensor and readings show no change on scanner.
i am thinking they got a bad pcm but do you feel the readings i am seeing is enough to say bad pcm or is there something else i need to test?
thanks for any help.
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3 months 3 weeks ago #64335
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"Ground cannot be checked with a 10mm socket"
Replied by Noah on topic 2008 e350 major runability issues
I would compare the MAF voltage pid to the actual measured voltage on the MAF signal wire to start.
Maybe even jump it to ground and 5v while watching the voltage PID on the scanner to see if it reflects accurately, or if it is possibly shorted to ground or crossed into another circuit.
If you still suspect the engine computer, obviously powers and grounds will need to be load tested at the PCM connector before making that call.
Maybe even jump it to ground and 5v while watching the voltage PID on the scanner to see if it reflects accurately, or if it is possibly shorted to ground or crossed into another circuit.
If you still suspect the engine computer, obviously powers and grounds will need to be load tested at the PCM connector before making that call.
"Ground cannot be checked with a 10mm socket"
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3 months 3 weeks ago #64337
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tested with vantage at sensor and back at pcm and get different readings with vantage than scanner shows. tried jumping to ground at sensor when scanner shows high readings and nothing changed on scanner.
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