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HELP!!!! P163a

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1 year 8 months ago #63998 by Andy8850
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So I’ve got a doozy, 2018 colorado 3.6, we did a used engine swap and it has turned into a disaster. 23k on engine and used the original wiring harness from the original engine, the fuel rails, injectors and injector harness and high pressure sensor are all from the salvage engine. After the first test drive we got a p163a with no CEL, we have had these codes also but not consistently, p0090, p00c8 and p228c, those codes only occurred once at different times the p228c occurred by itself with no other codes and put me in reduced power, the p0090, p00c8 and p163a all occurred together and gave me reduced power at one point also but it seems the only codes that returns with consistency is the p163a but does not trigger a reduced power situation, the vin is-1GCGSCEN5J1118135, we’ve changed the high pressure fuel
pump with a GM unit, called identifix and went through the diagnostics and replace the ECM, no good, then identifix suggested I run a new circuit straight from the ecm to the high pressure fuel
pump, I used new pins on the x3 ecm connector and new 2 pin connector at the hpfp regulator and after about 60 miles the code come back, occasionally I’ll get a p228c with reduced power and the p163a, I’ve watched fuel pressure while driving and low is always between 50 and 60 and high is always over 550psi, freeze frame showed rail pressure at 61 psi when the light flagged, but there was no drivability change. The p163a always returns and the p228c occasionally flags and puts me in reduced power. I’m truly at a loss now it is very strange. Help
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1 year 8 months ago #63999 by Lupe
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there is TSB on that , i think clls for changing fuel rail and connector good luck

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1 year 8 months ago #64000 by Hardtopdr2
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I would make sure the grounds are good for those circuits. especially the small ones that bolt to heads. they are easy to miss.

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1 year 8 months ago #64007 by Andy8850
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I found a related tsb but it was for the Diesel engine, thank you

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1 year 8 months ago #64010 by Differently
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I 2nd a ground issue. I believe there is a ground on the back side of each cylinder head. I've had several gm vehicles kick my butt because of poor engine grounds.

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1 year 8 months ago #64011 by Andy8850
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Checked all the grounds several times, thank you though

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1 year 8 months ago #64015 by Hardtopdr2
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then i would say to pull the injectors, rails, and harnesses and swap them out.

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1 year 8 months ago #64019 by Andy8850
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I was thinking that also I just can’t seem to see the correlation to the p163a code, the code refers to regulator control circuitry, the only things on the circuit according to the diagram is the high pressure fuel pump regulator, wires and ecm, all of which are new, I ran 2 new control wires from ecm x3 connector straight to the regulator with a new 2 pin connector, I just don’t know what else the ecm is looking at in the diagnostic strategy for setting the code

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1 year 8 months ago #64031 by Andy8850
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This circuit is fairly simple, ecm to hpfp regulator, my other thought was maybe the voltage to the ecm for the driver was an issue but the diagrams do not show me what lines coming into the ecm power which drivers, I don’t know, it’s probably far more simple

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1 year 8 months ago #64032 by paxfam1
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Have you load tested powers and grounds at ECM? Any electrical concerns with old motor? Have you had a scope on regulator power and ground?

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1 year 8 months ago #64034 by Andy8850
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There were no previous issues that I’m aware of, we did check for codes before we started the job and there were none. How would you suggest I load test the powers and grounds?

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1 year 8 months ago #64050 by paxfam1
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Are you familiar with voltage drop testing?

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1 year 8 months ago #64054 by Andy8850
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I am a little bit, definitely not as much as I should be, how would you suggest I go about it? I did have a new development though, I removed my new circuit from the ECM to regulator and found that if I pound this truck and lay it in the floor I can get it to store. P0090 and go into reduced power, it’s still a circuit code but I watched desired and actual on a graph and it is off comparatively

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1 year 8 months ago #64056 by paxfam1
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Here is a link to voltage drop testing.

www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j...hPRyxm8UQU_yYdUykv5D

Is the high pressure pump you have installed for sure good?

This is a pretty simple system, if you have a good High Pressure Pump, good ECM, and new circuits. I would verify ECM inputs are all good.

Mike

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1 year 8 months ago #64109 by Lupe
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you say the pump has been changed , i would make sure nothing got left out or the cam actuater and then when engine replacemnts some time the connector pins of sensor get opened where we get shorting problems GOOD LUCK

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1 year 5 months ago #65339 by B2017
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Did you ever figure this out? I’m dealing with the exact same thing right now! 

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1 year 3 months ago #65872 by Subject11
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Have you figured out the problem?

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11 months 1 week ago #67175 by VillageService
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Hello. We were wondering if you have ever found the root of this problem. We, along with another shop have been battling this same situation for about six months.

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9 months 1 week ago #72972 by Troys916
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I have the same 2018 Chevy colorado as above with the same issue. I changed the motor and throwing the exact same engine code above. I have been trying to fix for three months. P0163a, P228c, P0090. I changed the ecm, engine wiring harness, tank fuel pump. All the codes kept returning when I drive 10 to 50 miles with reduced engine. My last fix was the Connector and high pressure sensor from my old motor. This I think has fixed my problem. I have test driven 155 miles so far with no engine codes appearing. Hope this helps someone.

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6 months 3 weeks ago #83743 by 2014grish
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Hey so I was wondering if anyone on here actually figured out this issue. I just swapped a perfect engine in and now I have the same issue. I put a new high pressure fuel pump in and still had the issues coming up so to be sure I got another brand new high pressure fuel pump from the dealer and I still have the same exact issues. Was wondering what you guys did to fix your issues? PLEASE HELP this is getting to me

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