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Manual control of waste spark ignition coil

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2 years 8 months ago #60034 by weberindustries
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2007 Ford Ranger with 4.0L engine. In ScannerDanner video (Ignition System Testing-Primary Current Audi Part 1) Paul manually controls waste spark ignition coil with test light. I have tried to replicate his test with the ford ignition coil, but I am unable to duplicate (no spark from coil). Any reason the Ford coil would not behave the same as the Audi?

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2 years 8 months ago #60035 by juergen.scholl
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If you're testing the coil out off the car you may have to ground the coil housing separately if only 4 wires connect to the coil.

If you're testing in the car: does none of the 3 coils spark? Do you have proper voltage and ground connections?

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2 years 8 months ago #60036 by Matt T
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That Ford has 2 wire coils ground side switched by the PCM. A scope on a rope won't flow near enough current to make it spark.

Guessing that Audi had 3+ wire, internally switched, coils and Paul was toggling the coil control with the test light.

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2 years 8 months ago #60037 by weberindustries
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I tried the test in and out of vehicle and verified proper power and grounds with each test. Also tried test with a known good coil, but still got no spark.

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2 years 8 months ago #60038 by weberindustries
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Looks like in Paul's video he mentions there being transistors inside the coil as well as in the computer. The only wiring diagrams I can find do not show any transistors in the Ford coil. Would that be the reason for my test light not allowing enough flow to activate the coil?

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2 years 8 months ago #60039 by juergen.scholl
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Would that be the reason for my test light not allowing enough flow to activate the coil?

Two wires coils definitely won't work with the current limitation from a test light.

You may pulse/test these coils by grounding them briefly manually. Make sure you're on the negative side of the coil (control side) snd use a fused jumper wire.

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