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4 years 6 months ago #46980
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Hello everyone,
This is Joe writing. I am recently shopping for a mobile scope, and here is my situation.
I am a dealer tech with OEM scanner tools available at work, so I think it makes more sense to just buy a stand alone scope with no scanner funtion. So that I can save some money on the device itself, and also dont have to worry about updating the sofeware down the road. Let me know what do you think about this idea, and why.
With that being said, I narrow down my options to 3 scopes:
#1: Snap-on Vantage Legend. $2,995CAD.
#2: Micsig TO1152. $580CAD. It is a 2-CH tablet scope, with decent quality and much lower price.
#3: AESWave UScope. $560CAD.
Any thoughts? Should I start low, and upgrade later on, or just buy that RIGHT tool for the first time?
Any suggestions or thoughts will be appriciated. Thank you.
Joe
This is Joe writing. I am recently shopping for a mobile scope, and here is my situation.
I am a dealer tech with OEM scanner tools available at work, so I think it makes more sense to just buy a stand alone scope with no scanner funtion. So that I can save some money on the device itself, and also dont have to worry about updating the sofeware down the road. Let me know what do you think about this idea, and why.
With that being said, I narrow down my options to 3 scopes:
#1: Snap-on Vantage Legend. $2,995CAD.
#2: Micsig TO1152. $580CAD. It is a 2-CH tablet scope, with decent quality and much lower price.
#3: AESWave UScope. $560CAD.
Any thoughts? Should I start low, and upgrade later on, or just buy that RIGHT tool for the first time?
Any suggestions or thoughts will be appriciated. Thank you.
Joe
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A big part of the Vantage Legend's price is the "Guided Component Test" database, which is update-able software. The Vantage Legend is a 2-channel scope. Since you are not interested in software updates, I would recommend finding a used Verus. It is a 4-channel scope, and will also have the "Guided Component Tests" AND scantool capabilities (covering vehicles up to it's last software update). It does not have to be up to date to use the labscope to function. I know your are not interested in another scanner but, with a Verus you, essentially, have a scope/laptop with wifi. You can, wirelessly, send your waveforms to a PC for analysis with Shopstream connect, and more. (I happen to have a Verus Pro, updated to 20.2, that I have been considering selling.
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If you want to do it "RIGHT" the first time, I would recommend getting a Picoscope. I don't know of anyone that is not happy with their Pico.
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I think it makes more sense to just buy a stand alone scope with no scanner funtion. So that I can save some money on the device itself, and also dont have to worry about updating the sofeware down the road...Any thoughts? Should I start low, and upgrade later on, or just buy that RIGHT tool for the first time?
A big part of the Vantage Legend's price is the "Guided Component Test" database, which is update-able software. The Vantage Legend is a 2-channel scope. Since you are not interested in software updates, I would recommend finding a used Verus. It is a 4-channel scope, and will also have the "Guided Component Tests" AND scantool capabilities (covering vehicles up to it's last software update). It does not have to be up to date to use the labscope to function. I know your are not interested in another scanner but, with a Verus you, essentially, have a scope/laptop with wifi. You can, wirelessly, send your waveforms to a PC for analysis with Shopstream connect, and more. (I happen to have a Verus Pro, updated to 20.2, that I have been considering selling.

If you want to do it "RIGHT" the first time, I would recommend getting a Picoscope. I don't know of anyone that is not happy with their Pico.

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Hey Chad, thank you for your reply.
Using a Pico with a laptop is a bit overkill for my position, maybe one day when I become the top guy in the shop, then I will grab a Pico lol.
Thanks to your advice, I will keep an eye on the used snap on market. By the way, how much would you ask if you decide to sell your used snap on? Just to get an idea of the used price.
Cheers.
Using a Pico with a laptop is a bit overkill for my position, maybe one day when I become the top guy in the shop, then I will grab a Pico lol.
Thanks to your advice, I will keep an eye on the used snap on market. By the way, how much would you ask if you decide to sell your used snap on? Just to get an idea of the used price.
Cheers.
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I would want to get $2K for mine because the software was updated within the last year. (the updates are $1250 :woohoo: )
However, if you look around, you can probably find one with older software for somewhere around $1K. You may even be able to find a first generation, for about $500. They ALL use the same M4 scope. Even, the Zeus.
However, if you look around, you can probably find one with older software for somewhere around $1K. You may even be able to find a first generation, for about $500. They ALL use the same M4 scope. Even, the Zeus.
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I would add the Ditex CarScope Viso to your list.
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A lot really depends what you will do with it.
Some of the above are only 1 or 2 channels ? In reality you'd probably want more if you're doing it "right", to cover you for the future.
Maybe call the likes of AES and discuss with them ?
But in terms of future upgrades or costs....in reality there would be none with the Pico, other than buying additional accessories. But that will apply with any scope.
Some of the above are only 1 or 2 channels ? In reality you'd probably want more if you're doing it "right", to cover you for the future.
Maybe call the likes of AES and discuss with them ?
But in terms of future upgrades or costs....in reality there would be none with the Pico, other than buying additional accessories. But that will apply with any scope.
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