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4 years 7 months ago #46477 by Mike T

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I did a relative compression test on my 1997 Dodge Ram 2500 5.9L Cummins it has some blow by. On the test it showed good compression but after every 6 compression spikes there was a down dip that I didn’t understand any help would be greatly appreciated.

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4 years 7 months ago #46479 by Matt T

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Mike T wrote: I did a relative compression test on my 1997 Dodge Ram 2500 5.9L Cummins it has some blow by. On the test it showed good compression but after every 6 compression spikes there was a down dip that I didn’t understand any help would be greatly appreciated.

Is that waveform current or voltage? It looks inverted which'd make your dip the top of the best cylinder's compression stroke....

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4 years 7 months ago #46482 by Andy.MacFadyen

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Exactly the questions I was going ask ?

" We're trying to plug a hole in the universe, what are you doing ?. "
(Walter Bishop Fringe TV show)

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4 years 7 months ago #46486 by Mike T

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It’s on voltage. I’m pretty sure it’s not inverted. The old truck runs good and strong.

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4 years 7 months ago #46487 by Mike T

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I can check it again tomorrow if I have time but I’m almost positive. And is there anyway to mark a cylinder on a diesel like this? Like you would with spark on gas?

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4 years 7 months ago #46488 by Matt T

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Mike T wrote: It’s on voltage. I’m pretty sure it’s not inverted. The old truck runs good and strong.

I guess I could have worded my earlier reply betterer. It looks like a cranking voltage waveform that hasn't been inverted. That makes it upside down, compared to a cranking current waveform, with the compression peaks at the bottom of the trace instead of at the top.

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4 years 7 months ago #46489 by Mike T

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1997 Dodge Ram 2500 5.9l down dip isn’t inverted

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4 years 7 months ago #46490 by Mike T

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So I should have inverted it?

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4 years 7 months ago #46491 by Mike T

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It was set at 2v coupling AC and I used my low amp clamp on 60v is that right or should I have inverted it? I’m not positive on if my clamp was on right or not

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4 years 7 months ago #46492 by Mike T

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Here is a pic of it starting

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4 years 7 months ago #46493 by Mike T

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Sorry I said I used my amp clamp. I didn’t use my amp clamp it wouldn’t fit over the wire. So I just used my yellow leads.

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4 years 7 months ago #46494 by AJeep18

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Yes your waveform is upside down. When the truck first starts cranking is when it will draw maximum current, but in your picture it is going negative. Hit the invert button on your scope.

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4 years 7 months ago #46495 by AJeep18

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Also if you notice on the original waveform picture, it looks like (because it is inverted) every single has the exact same amount of compression, and while they should all be very close, I don't usually seem them in a perfect line like that.

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4 years 7 months ago #46496 by AJeep18

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Andy.MacFadyen wrote: Exactly the questions I was going ask ?

If the waveform is inverted, not that it is really any easier than using the invert function, but could one just switch the test leads around also?

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4 years 7 months ago #46497 by Mike T

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Thanks! Is there anyway to mark one of the cylinders like a coil on gas engine? And is there anyway to hook to the injector pump and test injectors

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4 years 7 months ago #46499 by AJeep18

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There is but I am not 100% certain how.
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On those 5.9's there are those connectors by for the valve cover gasket/ injector wiring. I believe if you probed the command wire for a know injector this would allow you to sync TDC of that cylinder with your compression test. But some engines run pre and/or post injections so it you would have to figure out which one is the primary injection. That is the best I have.

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4 years 7 months ago #46500 by AJeep18

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Andy sent me this as far as testing injectors. (credit where credit is due

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www.picoauto.com/library/automotive-guid...sch-current-at-idle/

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4 years 7 months ago #46501 by AJeep18

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Are you having a problem with your truck or just want to see what kind of health it is in?

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4 years 7 months ago #46503 by Mike T

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That is good information! Thanks for it but this is an older model there is no wires going to the injectors the injectors are fired off of pressure.

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4 years 7 months ago #46504 by Mike T

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Just checking it’s Health and playing with my scope trying to get it all figured out

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