Ignition Probe Discussions \ Tests & Debates - Do YOU need to buy one?
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3 years 1 month ago #50988
by juergen.scholl
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Depending on the coil design/insulation often times a regular probe will capture a signal that allows to measure burn time, at least. Even without coin. Although you only get a fraction of the information the secondary can offer at least it allows a relative comparison between coils/cylinders.
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2 years 6 months ago #55105
by Joshasta
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I'm just trying to figure out what I am missing. Why do the professionally made pickups require 1000:1 attenuation but these home made pickups don't?
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2 years 3 months ago - 2 years 3 months ago #56732
by graywave
Confirm what it's not, and fix what it is!
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Wow this thread really picked up since I was last here.
I believe the attenuation is for a few reasons. One, liability. They don't want to be buying you new oscilloscopes when a spark jumps to the probe or if the voltage output becomes to high and overloads your scope or your scope settings can't be set high enough to get the entire waveform in view.
The pico probe may also work better with the Pico scope. I've never tried.
The improvised probes, well your dancing with the devil but honestly I've been using my liquid tape coated coil of wire for a long time now without issues. I find shielding in the coil is tough with professional probes and sometimes even with the improvised probes.
I've used coils of solder wrapped in electrical tape on top of multiple coils, or solder wrapped around ignition wires, (Hopefully good wires) to get signals. I've also had luck with just putting on a large alligator clamp directly onto a spark wire to get the signals.
Someday I would like to build a safer circuit. Haven't had the time.
I believe the attenuation is for a few reasons. One, liability. They don't want to be buying you new oscilloscopes when a spark jumps to the probe or if the voltage output becomes to high and overloads your scope or your scope settings can't be set high enough to get the entire waveform in view.
The pico probe may also work better with the Pico scope. I've never tried.
The improvised probes, well your dancing with the devil but honestly I've been using my liquid tape coated coil of wire for a long time now without issues. I find shielding in the coil is tough with professional probes and sometimes even with the improvised probes.
I've used coils of solder wrapped in electrical tape on top of multiple coils, or solder wrapped around ignition wires, (Hopefully good wires) to get signals. I've also had luck with just putting on a large alligator clamp directly onto a spark wire to get the signals.
Someday I would like to build a safer circuit. Haven't had the time.
Confirm what it's not, and fix what it is!
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2 years 1 month ago #57813
by Andy.MacFadyen
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Try this for an experiment b
just hold the scope lead in your hand and holding your hand over the coil pack
just hold the scope lead in your hand and holding your hand over the coil pack
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