NEW MICSIG SCOPE - VATO2004 (Android USB box - Not a tablet scope)

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1 year 4 months ago - 9 months 5 days ago #63714 by JEFFSSEI
www.micsig.com/VATO/  

Tech Document:
www.micsig.com/uploads/VATOseriesDatasheet231114_1700116506.pdf  


Looks Interesting...Cost is about $300-$400...only downside is there is not currently any windows PC app for it, but you could run bluestacks on windows pc and run it inside that.
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1 year 3 months ago #64268 by Tutti57
Intersting!  I didn't know this came out.  It looks cool, but for the price wish it had 12bit vertical resolution like it's older siblings.  For better than half the price you can get an Hscope, which has an amazing user interface and 12bit resolution, depending on which hardware you pair it with.  A nice other option though!

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9 months 5 days ago - 9 months 5 days ago #66269 by JEFFSSEI
Well, I finally pulled the trigger on this, got it for $240 shipped from sainsmart, still reading/learning how to use it (the specifics of this one)...I do like the fact it's battery operated so I am isolated from mains ground (unless you use it plugged into mains, then it is mains grounded), but all the grounds for each channel are tied together (wasn't expecting otherwise for the price)... I chose this one because I already had a a 10" android tablet to use it with. guess we'll see how it works....I'll report back (might be a while - leaving out of town for work for a few weeks - day job (engineery stuff) once I get a chance to run it through it's paces.
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6 months 3 days ago #67369 by zafeiropoulos
i am also considering to pull the triger on a handheld tablet scope. i am thinking to go for micsig ato2004

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4 months 1 week ago #74157 by Carlssonlove
hi, would be nice a follow up, i am using a pico 2000 series 2ch and want to switch to 4ch but wouldn't see anyuthing good in the 500euro/usd budget to match the 4 ch 2000 series.
Would be good to know how zoom works, since it's still 8 bit resolution, and if that black background can be turned white, or use with a laptop windows beside the android?
Micsig support not to good

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1 month 6 days ago #85079 by jon.dieter@gmail.com
I also got the Micsig VATO and really like it has battery power. The Android application is very lacking and you can't do custom probes or setup pressure transducer. There is a chance that HScope will be developed for this and that would make this a complete automotive labscope. They are currently voting for the software to be made.for the VATO on www.martinloren.com/oscilloscopes/upcoming-oscilloscopes/ Martin Loren makes.the Hscope software and its truly powerful and.easy to use. If we can get.enough interest by voting he will make it work for the VATO. You should check HScope software out it does cylinder overlays and has degree cursors and.custom probes and recording of waveforms.

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1 month 6 days ago #85108 by Carlssonlove
it would probably be a good option. For me personally i've choose to buy the Ukrainian MTpro, which would be a much better motor diagnostic tool.
It's downside is that it's still 8bit not 12bit la Pico Auto, and not as powerfull, not being a 100% oscilloscope but more a diagnostic tool. But it has many useful tests

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1 month 6 days ago #85130 by jon.dieter@gmail.com
For the MTPro I have been trying to get it for years and its out of stock and not available from my understanding from Rotkee which make outstanding automotive diagnostic products in Ukraine. I have there secondary ignition and pulse probes and the quality is top notch for the price.. The Vimu is also 12 bit and has a high rate of sampling even when doing real time captures and the price was right.   The software does take a little to get use on the PC but once you have it down its really nice and can do up to 4 reference waveforms as well.  Plus it has advanced noise filtering capabilities.  It also has 64 MB of memory on board of it and capture tons of waveforms.  Its just amazing that you can get a 12 bit scope with good features such as the Vimu for under $200.00.
I was also looking at the Autel MP408 which is 12 bit and it looks like they stopped making or if you want to buy it from Aliexpress its $800 and the Vimu 12 MS041BL can do everything it can for a fraction of the cost and the developers actually make improvements to the software.   It might seem simple but they just added a label feature for annotating the waves which is really handy for automotive diagnostics.

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1 month 6 days ago #85146 by Carlssonlove
mlab.org.ua/mtpro/mtpro-price.html

Mlab is the manufacturer of MT PRO. Rotkee makes only probes and they said will no longer sell MT PRO.
At this moment i have mine in customes for 2 months from Mlab and a package full of probes from Rotkee and i feel like i'm going crazy. Boiling nerves. If i knew they will ship with national post i would have asked to use a fast shipping service. I';m from Europe.

Autel yes it;s 12bit and out of production but can't justify 800 from Aliexpress. Autel is very basic in terms of functions.

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1 month 39 minutes ago - 1 month 38 minutes ago #85432 by JEFFSSEI
@JonDieter.. Signed up/voted for it....thanks
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1 month 35 minutes ago #85433 by JEFFSSEI

hi, would be nice a follow up, i am using a pico 2000 series 2ch and want to switch to 4ch but wouldn't see anyuthing good in the 500euro/usd budget to match the 4 ch 2000 series.
Would be good to know how zoom works, since it's still 8 bit resolution, and if that black background can be turned white, or use with a laptop windows beside the android?
Micsig support not to good

Sorry, can't give much of an update other than I am happy with it using my 10" tablet...my main job (HVAC Engineering Lab Tech & Backup Field Service Tech) has had me crazy busy for months between lab work and field service, I've only used it like 1 time to check a PWM signal (and it wasn't even on a car....lol)
 

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4 weeks 2 days ago #85451 by jon.dieter@gmail.com
Thank you for taking the Time to vote for Micsig software running on the HScope software.   For those of us that have a Micsig VATO 2004 or VTO 2004 please vote for the HScope software it is hundred times better then the factory Micsig Software.  First off Micsig never updates there software, no custom probes,  no recording of waveforms, no presets, no pressure transducer setup, no true Automotive Functionality such as 720 Degree overlays or cylinder overlays for compression.  The list goes on and on for the software for the MicSig VATO software it has huge limitations and they don't care to improve it. Please vote for Micsig VATO running on Hscope software and take your 4 channel Micsig to a whole new experience.  A lot of us can't afford a Pico and can't just spending $4000 on a 4 channel automotive scope but with HScope and Micsig VATO 2004 we can get closer at a reasonable cost..  Martin Loren maker of HSCope software is constantly improving the software and coming out with new features monthly and you can even request new feature and be a beta tester.

Please vote at:    www.martinloren.com/oscilloscopes/upcoming-oscilloscopes/    For the Micsig Running HScope software or please check out the HScope Software features.

Automotive HScope:   www.martinloren.com/hscope/automotive-module/
HScope App Guide:    www.martinloren.com/hscope-guide/
 
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4 weeks 2 days ago - 4 weeks 2 days ago #85452 by JEFFSSEI
I actually emailed him and offered to lend him mine for testing purposes if he needed one...I'll let you know if I hear back.

Thank you for taking the Time to vote for Micsig software running on the HScope software.   For those of us that have a Micsig VATO 2004 or VTO 2004 please vote for the HScope software it is hundred times better then the factory Micsig Software.  First off Micsig never updates there software, no custom probes,  no recording of waveforms, no presets, no pressure transducer setup, no true Automotive Functionality such as 720 Degree overlays or cylinder overlays for compression.  The list goes on and on for the software for the MicSig VATO software it has huge limitations and they don't care to improve it. Please vote for Micsig VATO running on Hscope software and take your 4 channel Micsig to a whole new experience.  A lot of us can't afford a Pico and can't just spending $4000 on a 4 channel automotive scope but with HScope and Micsig VATO 2004 we can get closer at a reasonable cost..  Martin Loren maker of HSCope software is constantly improving the software and coming out with new features monthly and you can even request new feature and be a beta tester.

Please vote at:    www.martinloren.com/oscilloscopes/upcoming-oscilloscopes/    For the Micsig Running HScope software or please check out the HScope Software features.

Automotive HScope:   www.martinloren.com/hscope/automotive-module/
HScope App Guide:    www.martinloren.com/hscope-guide/

 

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3 weeks 4 days ago - 3 weeks 4 days ago #86309 by JEFFSSEI
He Replied back to me...so yeah we need everyone we can get to sign up for that list.


Hi Jeff, this oscilloscope is planned for driver development in HScope. Just inscribe to the list and when this list will reach the target interest I should start with the development.I've already purchased this oscilloscope so no need to lend. Thanks anyway!Martin 

JEFFSSEI post=85452 userid=29204I actually emailed him and offered to lend him mine for testing purposes if he needed one...I'll let you know if I hear back.

Thank you for taking the Time to vote for Micsig software running on the HScope software.   For those of us that have a Micsig VATO 2004 or VTO 2004 please vote for the HScope software it is hundred times better then the factory Micsig Software.  First off Micsig never updates there software, no custom probes,  no recording of waveforms, no presets, no pressure transducer setup, no true Automotive Functionality such as 720 Degree overlays or cylinder overlays for compression.  The list goes on and on for the software for the MicSig VATO software it has huge limitations and they don't care to improve it. Please vote for Micsig VATO running on Hscope software and take your 4 channel Micsig to a whole new experience.  A lot of us can't afford a Pico and can't just spending $4000 on a 4 channel automotive scope but with HScope and Micsig VATO 2004 we can get closer at a reasonable cost..  Martin Loren maker of HSCope software is constantly improving the software and coming out with new features monthly and you can even request new feature and be a beta tester.

Please vote at:    www.martinloren.com/oscilloscopes/upcoming-oscilloscopes/    For the Micsig Running HScope software or please check out the HScope Software features.

Automotive HScope:   www.martinloren.com/hscope/automotive-module/
HScope App Guide:    www.martinloren.com/hscope-guide/

 

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3 weeks 3 days ago #86374 by jon.dieter@gmail.com
Hi Jeff thanks for reaching out to Martin on HScope for the Micsig VATO.  I really wish we could get people to vote for this. The HScope software is right up there with Picoscope software but at a fraction of the cost.  If you have a Micsig VATO it would be so much more capable with hscope.  Please vote at.
www.martinloren.com/oscilloscopes/upcoming-oscilloscopes/      ​​​​

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1 week 1 day ago #88385 by jon.dieter@gmail.com
I ended up ordering the MT PRo 4.1 this thing might not have the sampling rate but its analyze features kind of put the hurt on a Picoscope for a fraction of the cost.  It looks the software has cylinder overlays and tons of timing.  It might take me some time to learn it compared to using hscope but it seems like it will save time in the long run.   The youtube channel 7100 diagnostics has awesome videos on MT Pro and diagnostics in general.  I have wanted the MT Pro after seeing on Rotkee many years ago.  
It seems like Hscope wil! take a long time before he will develop Micsig VATO unitil he gets a 100 votes so who knows that could be a year or more at this rate.
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5 days 23 hours ago #88614 by JEFFSSEI
Yeah, I'm hopeful it won't take that long...he also has a donation page where you can donate for new features, if I get a little extra money from some of my side work I may throw a hundred or two at him for costs associated with building the drivers for it. Oh and nice pick, looks like a solid scope.

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