New tool - A pulse sensor
It doesn't give actual pressure or vacuum numbers, it simply shows pulses of either. Above 0 is pressure, below is vacuum. I hooked this sensor up to my car (2003 Accord 2.4L) on the brake booster vacuum hose, just as a testing scenario and to see how it works.
This is my K24A motor running at 2,000 RPM. Red trace is the pulse sensor, green trace is cyl #4 ignition command squarewave from PCM, to act as a sync. Firing order is 1-3-4-2. Sorry about the noise on that channel(but it sorta helps identify other cyl TDC)
I have added pointers to the thing I want to discuss. I believe I may have found an issue with my car, I'm just not 100% sure on how to read this sensors output.
If you follow the math, the problem area is occurring at the cyl #3 firing event. Being that it's an intake vacuum capture at that moment, it must be 180 degrees from #3(the next cylinder to fire), meaning the cylinder/valves producing that jagged vacuum pulse must be #4 , right?
Also, I'd love to hear any general input on the pattern as this is brand new to me, first use ever.
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Inlet Valves : 0.21-0.25mm (0.008-0.010in)
Exhaust Valves: 0.28-0.32mm (0.011-0.013in)
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Can you please perform this test over, except, do an engine cranking analysis, not engine running.
Use your exact same scope set-up, disable the fuel pump and crank away!
Please post the pic.
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I agree with Weycraze, redo the capture cranking and fuel disabled. Since it's a K24, disconnecting the injectors might be the easiest method. Running intake waveforms can be tough to decypher, due to events happening so quickly.
I threw an overlay up on your capture for clarity:
Sure looks like it's the #4 intake pull that's weaker than the others. Again, I wouldn't get too excited until you do a cranking capture.
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driveabilityguys.com/software-and-tools .
I agree with Tyler, it does look like a weak pull on Cyl#4 Intake.
However, that can also be caused by a weak power stroke from companion #1 Cyl. ie, crank slowed down hence the weak pull.
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I'm still pushing forward on building these. The gen3 is a more universal application for a verity of scopes.
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Take note that the "weaker" intake pull is now cyl #1 (sync is #4 again, 1-3-4-2)
You can see that on my original capture at 2k RPM, and the sawtooth pattern that I was concerned with seems to be an anomaly all it's own, and I'm wondering if it's actually a cylinder specific vtec problem.
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Deltron wrote: I JUST got my overlay software and did that as you posted it, and you're right. It's 3 that's weak.
Sorry about that. :blush: I don't get to pull out my overlay as often as I'd like, so I get excited when I have an excuse!
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