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6 years 1 month ago #19052 by johnphufnagel
Hello guys and girls. I am working on a 2003 Volvo XC70 with a misfire under load and a little roughness at idle. My problem is I cant get a good waveform from the coils using a paddle probe. So I decided to see what the Snap On guided component test had to offer. It tells me that I can do a freq. and duty cycle test. The Freq test says at idle it should be between 5 to 7 Hz with no dropouts or glitches during test. On all coils I have both dropout and glitches at idle and 2500 rpm. I am not sure why. Can anyone tell me? I checked the coil control voltage and have No dropout but brings me to my next question. The turn on signal is not a true 0-5v square wave like I am used to seeing. It goes from 0 to 2.7 with the turn on rising straight up to 1.9v then rounding off to 2.7v with about a 2ms time. Any help with either problem is appreciated.
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6 years 1 month ago #19062 by Tyler
Hey john! Unfortunately the forum software won't allow direct uploading of ShopStream data files or scope captures. :( I've been taking screenshots and editing them in Paint instead. Or, I've been trading e-mails and sharing files that way! I'd be happy to look at your captures. wrenchturnsyou@gmail.com

The coil control waveform you described sounds pretty normal, IMO. It's typical of a three wire coil design used by Honda, Nissan and others. I know your Volvo coils have four wires, but one is really just a secondary ground circuit. That 'ramp' is a product of the transistor inside the coil itself. The signal generated by the PCM is actually 0-5V, but becomes a ramp when current starts flowing through the transistor inside the coil. This video goes more in-depth if you're interested:



As for the frequency test... I'm not sure? :huh: I've never done that particular test on a COP before. This may be an unpopular opinion, but I'm really not a big fan of the Graphing Multimeter. :blush: Do you have access to trouble codes? I'd probably try swapping coils around first, just to see if the code and miss move. You can do a quick power balance test to check cylinder contribution at idle. If you suspect a coil, you can also use a test light to check spark strength out of each coil, and see if you have a weak one. ;)

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