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OTC Genisys Modifed as Windows 7 Tablet / Diagnostic Scanner

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7 years 7 months ago - 7 years 7 months ago #18431 by eric_generic
If you open/disassemble your genisys, you might find a hard disk just like the verus. Then try cloning it and go from there. There was a guy on youtube that installed a windows 7 on his verus that did that cloning the hard disk stuff. But that was bringing windows to the scan tool not the other way around. You can, after cloning the hard disk, try booting it on a pc although I'm not quite sure that it will work but the idea is there.

Or, making a NANdroid backup of your genisys then running that to a pc with an android emulator in a windows os, or directly with an android os on a pc. That option works on an android phone, cloning the os then placing it in a same type of phone. Again, I'm not quite sure if it will work on your genisys.

Maybe some of the members here that are more computer-inclined could add/share more information. What you did to your genisys breathes a new life to it and that was pretty slick.

Regarding that ALT+TAB problem of yours, you could try to create a batch file that contains the ALT+TAB command then pin that file to your taskbar in windows so that it will be a one-click maneuver. But that would work only if you're in windows going to diagnostic hub. Going vice versa, I'm afraid I don't have a solution for that because even though you lock the taskbar, it will not show once the diagnostic hub is in fullscreen mode.
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7 years 7 months ago #18432 by graywave

If you open/disassemble your genisys, you might find a hard disk just like the verus. Then try cloning it and go from there. There was a guy on youtube that installed a windows 7 on his verus that did that cloning the hard disk stuff. But that was bringing windows to the scan tool not the other way around. You can, after cloning the hard disk, try booting it on a pc although I'm not quite sure that it will work but the idea is there.



Already did. Removing the MSata SSD, putting it into an adaptor and hooking it up to my PC was the only way I could edit the registry off line and make the changes required to get into explorer. After I was able to gain access to it I then had to reset the group policies for all accounts, even administrator because they had windows locked down hard.

I made a block level disk image of the original setup just in case I screwed it up. I also did a file level copy so I could play around with the files and registry before editing everything on the ssd.

Or, making a NANdroid backup of your genisys then running that to a pc with an android emulator in a windows os, or directly with an android os on a pc. That option works on an android phone, cloning the os then placing it in a same type of phone. Again, I'm not quite sure if it will work on your genisys.

OTC (aka Bosch) used Windows 7 Embedded Standard so no need for android emulators :). How awesome would it be though to run the software on a small laptop or even a surface pro with bluetooth with Windows 7 pro. That is something I want to look into further.

I also have all the updates saved so anyone who has the OTC Genisys Touch can grab the updates for free. They would need to remove the SSD though, copy the files and some how execute the exe files to update their device.

Regarding that ALT+TAB problem of yours, you could try to create a batch file that contains the ALT+TAB command then pin that file to your taskbar in windows so that it will be a one-click maneuver. But that would work only if you're in windows going to diagnostic hub. Going vice versa, I'm afraid I don't have a solution for that because even though you lock the taskbar, it will not show once the diagnostic hub is in fullscreen mode.

I don't have an issue with the ALT+TAB anymore. Now that I use DexPot Virtual Desktop software I can easily switch back and forth with the mouse arrow. Once DIAG HUB is loaded, its in kiosk mode and you could not gain access to the taskbar or explorer previously. Now I can with Dexpot software.

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7 years 7 months ago #18438 by graywave
I wonder if I could run the Windows 7 partition in a virtual machine.

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7 years 7 months ago #18446 by eric_generic
Do you mean to run that windows 7 through a virtual machine on a pc or in genisys? I'm looking forward to this project of yours as this methods maybe used to other scantools.

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7 years 7 months ago #18458 by graywave
On a PC / Laptop. I will need to prepare windows first before creating an image that I can use on another PC otherwise it will probably fail with a blue screen. I'll give it a shot

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7 years 7 months ago - 7 years 7 months ago #18929 by graywave
I created a new YouTube profile so my original video links won't work soon once I delete the old profile. That is pretty much the only reason why I am posting right now. The videos are the same as the ones I originally posted above.

This is still a work in progress as I am wondering how far I can go with it just out of curiosity. Thinking of either getting the software to run on a laptop or getting a bigger M-SATA drive and partitioning it so I can run OE programming software from it.

It was updated to the latest and last update v3.8 so its has up to some 2017 and most if not all 2016 now.

Original Video - OTC Genisys Touch 3895 Modified Windows 7 Tablet / Diag Scanner (Part 1)


Original Video - OTC Genisys Touch 3895 Modified Windows 7 Tablet / Diag Scanner (Part 2)


Purchased a RII Bluetooth Portable Keyboard for it.

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7 years 5 months ago #20153 by Mkpirulo
Hi, Is there a fix to get YouTube to work? Or do you have to convert to Win 7 tablet?

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7 years 5 months ago #20154 by graywave
Well I have google chrome loading now from diagnostic hub but I did that after converting it over. I think youtube worked for me using the old OTC browser. I could be wrong. If I played with it long enough I'm sure I could get windows explorer to run temporarily and configure chrome to run from the d-hub but I would need the whole unit on my desk. Its not a simple task

I was trying to help another guy remotely but its proving to be difficult.

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7 years 5 months ago #20155 by Mkpirulo
Thanks for the quick replay. It's nice to be able to go to YouTube trying to find a possible reference to a fix from Genysis touch. I'm planning on changing the hard drive to an MSATA version, removing the ribbon cable. This speed things up a bit.
Do you have any documentation on how to get the OTC shell installed into win 7 ?
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7 years 5 months ago #20166 by graywave
Windows 7 Embedded Standard is already installed behind the OTC Software. Windows is just very locked down and they have software running that keeps you from navigating anywhere via windows. Windows Explorer is not even running. The "shell" of windows loads the Kiosk Diag Hub.

Basically there is a lot of registry edits and changes to many security policies that allow me to use it how it is now.

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7 years 5 months ago #20390 by Mkpirulo
Ok, thanks.

Have another question. I'm trying to clone my spinning drive to an ssd. This way I will always have the original drive if anything goes wrong with the ssd. Have you had success doing this? I tried with no luck, is there something that I'm missing? The ssd boots initially into Windows but then sends an error code. It seems as if not all files were cloned.

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7 years 5 months ago #20427 by graywave
I have also been having issues with creating perfect cloned drives so i have no answers on that. What i can suggest is to call OTC and tell them what you want to have done and they will load a new image on the drive.

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7 years 5 months ago #20467 by Mkpirulo
Thanks for your reply. If you find an answer let me know, I will do the same. I called them with no luck. When I did the image I noticed that the win7 showed the destination drive had 7gb less, 40gb vs 33gb. Did you see the same? My OTC spinning drive is 320gb and the ssd is 250gb, should not matter. Any I'll let you know if I find a solution. Thanks

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7 years 4 months ago - 7 years 4 months ago #21486 by graywave
I have been getting a few inquires from some who want this done to their Genisys Touch as well or have me send over my drive image. I wanted to clear up a few things.

1. I have not been able to create a 100% successful bootable image of my drive. I thought I did in the beginning but the image is not a bootable image. Even after creating a new image of how it is now won't boot completely, it wouldn't load into windows desktop. Hung up at the windows loading screen. This was probably due to the recovery partition I created using AOMEI Backupper. I was in contact with another user who managed to create a bootable image and was able to boot into windows but the OTC Diagnostics software would crash when loading and was unsuccessful at getting it working. Luckily he did this on a spare drive which is smart.

Some members have not had success with even my MODIS images either. Maybe it was the AOMEI software I used to create the images that is creating the problem.

If others have suggestions I am open.

2. I won't modify the hard drives structure of windows registry remotely or send files for you to use. I only did this once and there were MANY MANY steps involved and can't remember all of them. I had thought about saving the registry changes only but I don't want to be responsible if a batch file or registry file doesn't work out since you still need to make all the changes offline as in, removing the drive and hooking it up to another PC. I would only do this if I was thoroughly convinced to and you would have to send your Genisys Touch Scanner to me. Reason is due to Windows being activated with a serial number in the BIOS and its possible the diagnostic hub reads hardware IDs too.

4. Unfortunately all these changes take a LONG time and I wouldn't be able to do it for free. I think one guy I was going to charge $75 but between him and I we couldn't make it happen remotely so I ended up not charging him for obvious reasons.

I am all for helping others but I want to be reasonable too.

Just to make others jealous... I use my Hantek 6074BE 4ch scope on my Genisys Touch :-D

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7 years 4 months ago #21488 by graywave
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6 years 8 months ago #26712 by Mclaren1234
Graywave, i have the diagnostic hub loaded on my laptop, it wont open and keeps saying not internet connection found.
i have perfect connection to the internet.
Any idea what may be causing this?

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6 years 8 months ago #26869 by pedroanacondra
Hello. I did it. I install OTC Genisys Touch in a ful window 8.1, windows 10 and windows 7 Pro, like the 7 pro and keep it. There is no way to migrate you have to install spx and diagnostic hub and firebird 2.17 and have to be 32 bit system.

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6 years 7 months ago #27420 by Lostinthis89
I was wondering if you still had a copy of the disk image for the genius touch. I was trying to do what you did and make it a tablet too but I'm new to all this and we'll messed it up. Even when I cloned it messed it up didn't realize till I needed it. So if there's anyway you can help me out that would be awesome
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6 years 2 months ago #32527 by Lostinthis89
I know ive asked before but I guess you could say I'm a little desperate. so if there is anyone out the that can and would help me out I would apricate it so much what i need is a disk image for the genisys touch i would be happy with one that is modified or factory. long story short I have lost every thing i have a few documents. so if any one can help me out in any way please email me at zachgunnels87@gmail.com
please some body help me out this has turned into over a year issue and i really need it up and running.

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5 years 11 months ago #34519 by pimpidj
Hi friends, I have a MAC-TOOLS Mentor Touch ET6500 with nothing, not even windows ... I need to put it to work, please help me ...

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