Thinking about trading my modis ultra for an Autel Maxisys Elite. What do y'all think about that?
Reason being the shop I work at has a Very Edge and with my Modis it's kind of redundant. Sometimes the SO won't do what I need so I'm thinking the Autel might fill some of those holes. And if the Autel won't do it I can use the shop Verus. Plus the updates are cheaper and I'd like to be able to print from the scanner without having to transfer to my computer first.
I'm glad you brought this up, as I've had the exact same thought. I think the Autel would definitely fill some gaps in the Snap-On coverage. The wireless adapter is always nice. The two years of free updates is tempting. :ohmy: That's about $2,000 worth of software on the Snap-On truck, if you're buying every update.
What scanner do you have Tyler? I think I've about talked myself out of switching brands. You really kinda need both. SO seems to have more reliable PIDs and if it lists a test or function, it works. Not always the case with Autel. I'm gonna price it out with AESwave anyway, but I think it's around $3500 but comes with 2 years of updates.
SO rep told me yesterday they had a buy 17.4 and get 18.2 free. I said that's not really a deal is it. He looked at me funny and I said "well 18.2 is about to come out" It comes out in April.lol
I have a Modis Ultra, and the shop has an Autel MaxiSys. It's like you said, you really need to have both. Too many gaps in the SO coverage to rely on it exclusively, and I can't stand how the Autel displays data. :silly: Autel is far better with Euro makes, as well, IMO.
I see the Elite going for around $2500? On other retailers, anyway. I figure AESwave would be close.
The Modis has 17.2 now, and I'm seriously considering letting it lapse. :lol:
I have Autel 908p and wish i would have bought the maxisys elite just for the 2 year deal and its slightly better tablet. however I also wish i would have bought the 908 regular without programming because I have heard the programming is not very good with it. Maybe get a Bosch mastertech for programming and Autel regular 908 would be better. If you have unlimited access to your shops verus, then I say trade for autel. makes sense to me. If you work on side then I say have both. Like I said, I have Autel 908p, Autel scope as well as picoscope 4 channel and I just purchased a modis ultra used. I should be able to work on just about anything now. No one tool is best but now I shouldn't be sending work away. Hope this helps.
bruce.oliver wrote: SO rep told me yesterday they had a buy 17.4 and get 18.2 free. I said that's not really a deal is it. He looked at me funny and I said "well 18.2 is about to come out" It comes out in April.lol
I had this exact conversation with my SO guy this week. :lol: They've got the subscription service, as well, but I think I'm out for now.
Autel bailed me out again today! Programming IQA values on a GM 6.6L LMM. I use the Modis first, get one of the numbers wrong (three zeros go at the END of the value, not before ), and go to fix it. Won't let me program that injector again. Now it's stuck with the wrong value. Connect up the Autel and I get the values programmed with no hassle.
Would you prefer to have one of the Autel over a Launch tool? From what I understand the coverage is pretty similar. Does anyone have any experience with the support of Autel?
Ben wrote: Lol I love that buy 1 get 1 free sales pitch.... What autel system do you have at your shop Tyler?
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The MS908, I believe! A few years old now, but still works well.
I've never dealt with their support, but the shop owner has had to send this MS908 out for repair previously, and had nothing but nice things to say about the experience.
Billybob1429 wrote: I have Autel 908p and wish i would have bought the maxisys elite just for the 2 year deal and its slightly better tablet. however I also wish i would have bought the 908 regular without programming because I have heard the programming is not very good with it. Maybe get a Bosch mastertech for programming and Autel regular 908 would be better. If you have unlimited access to your shops verus, then I say trade for autel. makes sense to me. If you work on side then I say have both. Like I said, I have Autel 908p, Autel scope as well as picoscope 4 channel and I just purchased a modis ultra used. I should be able to work on just about anything now. No one tool is best but now I shouldn't be sending work away. Hope this helps.
I came across a dealer that had an Autel Elite used for $1800 and he's selling me the updates for 900. I need to break down and update it cuz until I do it's not warrantied, of which he didn't really tell me about and That didn't make me happy. Anyway with a $900 updates and only paying $1,800 for it I still figure I got a deal. Are those two years updates included with it from a US dealer or Japanese? He told me they didn't come with two years of free updates. Anyway I'm still getting used to it and learning... I've only started using this much better bi-directional scanner and just purchased Pico scope! Dang lot to learn on that Pico scope especially if you're not used to using a scope, but at least I got the best tool. The hantek was crap, the software especially. And yeah it's really too bad that one machine doesn't cover more. especially when you spend so much freaking money on it!
After my Verus broke down, my rep sold me a Solus Ultra for $800 with Euro and 14.X software and his word that he would give me my full $800 for it in trade when a new (used) scope\scanner combo came in on trade.
I ended up fixing the Verus and updating the Solus. Until the update, I was planning on trying to trade the Solus for an Autel.
I was missing out on learning Honda keys (easy money in my area) with my old software, so I chose to go with the subscription option. I think you save somewhere in the neighborhood of $200 going that route.
I like having both tools even though some of the coverage may be redundant. The Solus impressed me with it's agility compared to the Verus. I just leave the Verus plugged in on "hibernate" mode until I need the scope.
I own many scan tools and quite a few tasks through modules for vehicle programming I own an original OTC Genisys and OTC encore and OTC Genisys touch an old MODIS a autel ms906 a autel maxisys elite along with a half a dozen factory scan tools and dongels with dedicated laptops first off anyone thinking of buying a Snap-On scanner should rethink that decision in my experience with all the scanners I played with over the years and the ones that I have I would say snap-on scanners are the lowest level scanner you can get highest priced the lowest level there's not one thing I've ever found that the snap-on scanners can do it OTC won't do in fact there's things OTC scanners and Alltel scanners will do the snap-on's won't do but that being said I do believe in my heart OTC scanners are the way to go specially with the new OTC of all that just came out but we're talking about autel scanners and truthfully they are amazing actually really good really good vehicle coverage very user-friendly very fast the problem I have with all tail is there customer support sucks it takes days to get a hold of him sometimes I've had a lot of problems with the Maxi flash Elite Pasthru Moduel that came with the maxisys elite not with the vehicle programming for sale and I program just about every make you could think of with that pasthru module the problem is every once in awhile it gets a wild hair up its butt and decides to read 24 volts instead of the proper battery voltage and as most of us know anytime a module sees over 15 volts it shuts down the module for safety so you can't program if the VCI is reading more than 15 volts I would definitely recommend Alltel over Snap On Any Day but if you're a real diagnostic guy what you want is an OTC scanner they have the best European coverage because they've just got in the bed with bosch they have the best us domestic coverage because they make all the tools and equipment for the US manufacturers and they make the diagnostic equipment and software for Toyota and Honda which puts them right at the top when it comes to Asian Diagnostics so the question is Alltel or Snap-on only a fool would you snap on overall tell the only people I've ever come across that like snap-on scanners or the people who have never used anything else shop owners that want the name and rookies that dont do hard core diagnosis
Oh and the shop i work for owns a snap on varus with the full cart now that thing is a hunk of crap over priced and dosent do nearly what otc or autel scanners will do and this thing still runs on Windows xp for crying out loud
Don't have much experience with OTC scan tools but a friend of mine has one. It wouldn't do the CVI relearn on a caravan but my snapon did. I'm not saying snapon is better but just pointing out that no aftermarket scan tool is perfect. And I don't have a verus
Ur right no one tool does it all tjats why i have so many ive just been let down by snap on so many times i hold a grudge against them lol i hope no one takes afence here but ive used most of the scanners and scops on the market over the last 20 years im a dedicated electrical on diagnostic technician and have many years experience at the dealership although I'm at an independent shop now I do a lot of work for the dealerships in the area actually I do a lot of diagnostic work 4 a lot of the independent shops in the area and a lot of vehicle programming for the locksmiths in the area it's fun for me keeps my mind busy
I've used Snap On Verus Pro & Solus and now my OTC Genisys Touch.
I am still very bias to Snap on for MANY things. Just a few is the PID screen, all the PIDS update in the snap on scanners and you never loose the recorded buffer on any of the PIDs if you scroll through. Reducing the amount of PIDs can help some times but often times I need more PIDs then what is visible on the OTC Genisys Touch screen which means....scrolling and loosing all my buffer. Stupid.
Another thing I hate with the Genisys is the 20 seconds it give you to activate a solenoid. Like a EVAP vent solenoid. Only allows it to be activated for 20 seconds when these can be activated for many minutes. They also don't give you valuable parameters to look at during those tests. There are a few other things too.
Snap on has nailed down some features that I really like as a diagnostician and I fight with my Genisys. Though I am sure the Maxisys may have features that snap on tools don't. the Genisys also has some features the snap on tools don't. I wouldn't at all say the snap on verus is a piece of junk though. It is over priced but an extremely effective tool.
Yea the genisys touch is kind of a flop i agree the buffering and loosing data sucks ive gotten to the point on that particular tool i just select what i wanna see and usually just fill one full screen with what i wanna see most frustrating thing about the tool is not being able to set the screen to time out or beable to shut it off and also not being able to switch from live data to internet repair information then back again on my maxisys elite i do all my work order's look at all my repair information and do all my diagnostics and its all always live but the difference is its an Android based tool i picked the maxisys elite over the otc evolve for only one reason i wanted to be able to do my tickets and repair information from my scanner and to run the mobile manager program from Michael u have to have Android 5.1 a 12mp rear facing camera 4 gb ram a 1.8ghz prossesor a certin size screen and the maxisys elite was the only one at the time that could do it but i paid 5300 and it came with 2 year warranty and 2 years of active subscription and out of all the pasthru modules ive used the maxiflash elite works the best its super user friendly the only problem is the customer support but the tool it self is great
Hi just a report to say I have just got an MS906BT from Autel in the UK,
apparently its the only one that was available here as its not sold here,probably because it has the same capability as the more exspensive model in the UK market,
I have A D10 Virus they make a very good combination,
I have to say the 18.2 software is spectacular,
Well i,m in a garage that mostly we never know whats comimng in eitheron the hook or servce work,as you probably know in the uk we dont have that many specialist shops or garage,s as we say here,
we do mot testing as you would call state inspection annually,you have a lot better freedom of information in your part of the world,we dont get Mitchel pro demand or alldata so wiring daigrams are very difficult to access,poor bi directional testing verylimited ,so it pays to not just to one scan tool based,
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Too many gaps in the SO coverage to rely on it exclusively, and I can't stand how the Autel displays data. :silly: Autel is far better with Euro makes, as well, IMO.
), and go to fix it. Won't let me program that injector again. 
