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- OBD Rick
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In an ideal world I'd like to buy a recommended smoke machine OEM approved and the rest. I'm aware that one of the main advantages of the more expensive machines is a built in flow meter which in all honesty is almost essential for proper leakage diagnosis. Funds been how they are in cannot afford a smoke machine so that is leaving me thinking in the mean time how should I build a cheap alternative?
My first search on the Web and I see a lot of machines made out of paint cans, hooked up to various compressors or hooked up to shop air with some sort of regulator to bring the pressure down to a minimal level. This is definitely an option but the preparation side of things with having to get the oil or rag lit and burning inside the can puts me off. Along with having to find somewhere safe to put the can as they get very hot.
The next idea I came across was adapting a DJ fog machine to use, i like this idea much more as it seems cleaner with less prep. My issues here tho are that i cannot find anyone who has tried the idea long term to report of any bad side effects. I am concerned about pressure, how much the machine put out and would it be enough to fill an intake or evap system or the other end of the scale would it be too much and damage valves etc? I have seen an example made with a small cheap fogger and the complaint was that the machine took too long between the heat up cycles to build up any decent volume of smoke quickly. My thoughts on this were getting a bigger output machine with a quicker heat up time. The next concern was of the smoke fluid used in the machines been safe to use in automotive applications. I realize manufacturers would say "ONLY USE AS DIRECTED!!!" but then again I'm sure the manufacturers of T-pins never knew how useful we would find them as back probes. I would worry that the smoke fluid may leave residue inside the different systems that could damage sensors etc however I'm basing this on no science what so ever just wild speculation on Google which as we all know is perfectly accepted Gospel.....
Has anyone got any real experience of either of these alternatives? Would appreciate some genuine advice or ideas. If not I think I'm going to give the fogger machine a go myself and start by using the workshops poor old 91 volvo as a guinea pig. Pictures and results to follow
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A smoke machine is something I've always wanted, but the cost is just too much to justify without actually owning my own shop.
You could check pawn shops. In my experience, they usually don't understand the value of automotive tools and are usually very open to negotiation. That's pretty hit or miss though.
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Very trueI've seen additive that are meant to be used in a vehicle do damage to components so....
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here are a few links to the UV smoke machine I made
I used nichrome wire cut to the correct length, forgot the ohms but I can put a meter on it if you want.
this thing works great,,, I believe I made the UV oil with 10ml A/C dye to a 1/2 qt of plain baby oil.
theres also an adjustable regulator that take the unit down to safe pressure 1/2 to 1lb and gauge to monitor
if you got any questions about the unit ill answer them.
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So fog machine, low pressure gauge, regulator/filter, lots of tubing.
The shopping list is growing
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Yes I got the glasses in with the purchase as well.
Cant open the ebay link
Ive included a pic of the uv dye Ive used, AC dye by ring.
Certainly using a smoke machine is the best way Ive gone for detecting air leaks,but the car I have now is defying diagnosis.With the long term fuel trim pegged at 23% saying air leak still.Fuel pressure flow are good and the injectors arent plugged or partially blocked.
Short term trim is all over the place +- 20%.
one thing I have noticed,oil fluoresces as well and alloy corrosion,I thought Id hit the jack pot until I looked at the smoke with the uv light direct from the hose
cheers Ian
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it works great for me,, as seen in my video. I can just hold the light up to the oil bottle on the shelf and it glows bright
I cant seem to post links on this site.... but you can search these words and it will come up
" UV Fluid and Gases Leak Detector Kit Car A/C System Dye&Glasse w/ 28 Leds Light "
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