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6 years 5 months ago #14835
by Dave101
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Guys,
I work on mostly OBD2 type vehicles but I am starting to get more and more OBD1 cars. I have a Verus Pro scope. My question is.. is it worth the money to buy adapters for my scope to look at OBD1 vehicles or should I continue to count the blinks of the Service Engine Soon lights? I also am wondering can you look at fuel trims on fuel injected OBD1 vehicles?
Thanks for your input
I work on mostly OBD2 type vehicles but I am starting to get more and more OBD1 cars. I have a Verus Pro scope. My question is.. is it worth the money to buy adapters for my scope to look at OBD1 vehicles or should I continue to count the blinks of the Service Engine Soon lights? I also am wondering can you look at fuel trims on fuel injected OBD1 vehicles?
Thanks for your input
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6 years 5 months ago - 6 years 5 months ago #14846
by Chad
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Yes. Get the OBD I adapter. There is not near as much info/capabilities as OBD II, but you CAN read some engine data pids.
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6 years 5 months ago #14890
by Andy.MacFadyen
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Replied by Andy.MacFadyen on topic OBD1 scopes
I would really think hard if tooling up for OBD1 is worth it, these vehicles are already at 20 years old and the numbers on the road will pretty soon fall off the cliff and those that do remain will be in the hands of guys who have their own scantools.
If you do tool up for OBD1 then I would look for secondhand scan tools rather than buy adaptors.
If you do tool up for OBD1 then I would look for secondhand scan tools rather than buy adaptors.
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6 years 5 months ago #14894
by Chad
Clearly, you still have a need for OBD-I. I do, as well. Adapters sell for less than $20, each, on Ebay....A whole set for $150.
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Dave101 wrote: but I am starting to get more and more OBD1 cars
Clearly, you still have a need for OBD-I. I do, as well. Adapters sell for less than $20, each, on Ebay....A whole set for $150.
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6 years 5 months ago #14903
by Dave101
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Clearly, you still have a need for OBD-I. I do, as well. Adapters sell for less than $20, each, on Ebay....A whole set for $150.[/quote]
I am looking for attachments that fit my scope, but I am wondering what data pids can you see? And is it worth it?
I am looking for attachments that fit my scope, but I am wondering what data pids can you see? And is it worth it?
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6 years 5 months ago #14907
by Chad
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The pids you get vary. It was up to the Manufacture's discretion.
My personal truck happens to be OBD-1. (1991 Chevy K2500) I'll connect it, tomorrow, and post a screenshot.
My personal truck happens to be OBD-1. (1991 Chevy K2500) I'll connect it, tomorrow, and post a screenshot.
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6 years 5 months ago - 6 years 5 months ago #14920
by Chad
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You asked, specifically, about fuel trim. Block Learn and Integrator are your LTFT and STFT. 128 being Zero. Anything above is positive. Anything below is negative.
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6 years 5 months ago #14921
by Chad
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6 years 5 months ago #14943
by Tyler
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GM was fantastic about providing data even in the OBD1 days. Always appreciated that.
Dunno how many OBD1 Fords you see, but those adapters are absolutely worth having. Many applications provide data, and even if they don't, being able to do the KOEO Self-Test and KOER Self-Test is worth it all on its own.
Dunno how many OBD1 Fords you see, but those adapters are absolutely worth having. Many applications provide data, and even if they don't, being able to do the KOEO Self-Test and KOER Self-Test is worth it all on its own.
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