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5 months 3 weeks ago - 5 months 3 weeks ago #63555 by brian.fuger
Hey all,

I recently bought a EM720C high current amp clamp from a reputable tool dealer. I was wondering if I can use this with my oscillioscope. I use a Autel MP408 and I have a conversion test lead with banana plugs that I can hook up to the scope and new meter. Can I hook into the ports on the front of the meter and set it for current on the scope, or would I have to set the scope to read voltage? I'm trying to get better at using a scope, i'm trying to perform a relative compression test for practice. my test vehicle is a 2000 honda crv. I also have a low current clamp from same tool dealer that is 30A max. Thank you for everyones input and insight.
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5 months 3 weeks ago - 5 months 3 weeks ago #63563 by Noah
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As far as I can tell, the clamp/meter combo tool cannot be used in combination with a scope or another meter.
You're stuck using the digital display on the tool.
This doesn't make it a bad tool, just not useful for capturing waveforms.

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5 months 3 weeks ago #63564 by brian.fuger
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I came to the same conclusion last night. Well, I did need one for work, so that's a plus. Thank you for the feedback. I'll just have to save up for another high amp clamp.

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5 months 3 weeks ago - 5 months 3 weeks ago #63573 by Chad
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Using an amp clamp is one way to do a relative compression test. Another way is to just scope the battery voltage.

Connect your scope test leads to battery Positive and Negative, Enable AC coupling and set the scope to a 2 volt scale.

As Current goes up, Voltage goes down. Because of this, the voltage waveform will be upside down, compared to an amperage waveform. If your scope has and invert function, turning it on will flip the voltage waveform over, to look just like the Amp Clamp waveform would look.  If you do not have an invert function, reversing the scope leads at the battery will invert the waveform, too.

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5 months 3 weeks ago #63578 by juergen.scholl
Another way to measure RC is to connect the signal lead of one channel to the engine block and its ground lead to battery negative post. That way you can let the channel DC-coupled and you don't need to invert the trace. Peaks in the waveform correspond to compression peaks. You would use a 1volt scale for the entire screen.

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5 months 3 weeks ago #63593 by oic5555
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Hello,
You might check aeswave,  they have current/amp clamps on black friday sale. They are offering the low and the high styles and they offer both bannana or bnc connections. They are priced better than the hanteks on amz.  They are great to deal with.
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