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Exhaust black smoke
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6 years 6 months ago #13942
by naros812000
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Dears,
I diagnosed a Toyota corolla 2010 1.8L engine with black smoke issue. The only DTC was P0420 catalytic converter issue. I monitored the downstream sensor, it had too much activity on it. So, we replace the catalytic converter. The smoke is less but it is still there.
Fuel trim is within a reasonable range that doesnt pass over 10 (STFT and LTFT).
Black smoke is indication of rich condition. I tested all maf, injectors, air filter, spark plug, COP and even replaced the fuel return pressure regulator. The smoke is still there.
Any suggestion and diag method are highly welcomed.
Thank you.
I diagnosed a Toyota corolla 2010 1.8L engine with black smoke issue. The only DTC was P0420 catalytic converter issue. I monitored the downstream sensor, it had too much activity on it. So, we replace the catalytic converter. The smoke is less but it is still there.
Fuel trim is within a reasonable range that doesnt pass over 10 (STFT and LTFT).
Black smoke is indication of rich condition. I tested all maf, injectors, air filter, spark plug, COP and even replaced the fuel return pressure regulator. The smoke is still there.
Any suggestion and diag method are highly welcomed.
Thank you.
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6 years 6 months ago #13945
by Andy.MacFadyen
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Replied by Andy.MacFadyen on topic Exhaust black smoke
Is it using oil ? Toyota had cylinder bore wear issues on some 1.8 engines around that model year, over here in the UK they replaced a lot of engines out of warranty as a goodwill gesture.
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6 years 6 months ago #13951
by Dylan
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Moved topic to Repair section.
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6 years 6 months ago #13964
by Chad
I don't think I believe your Upstream O2 sensor. Can you create a vacuum leak and lean the upstream sensor out, at all? Add propane to the intake? Any reaction?
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Replied by Chad on topic Exhaust black smoke
Running rich, with positive full trims.....naros812000 wrote: Fuel trim is within a reasonable range that doesnt pass over 10 (STFT and LTFT).
How is the activity on the upstream sensor? I would expect to see a pegged rich O2, if it was rich enough to be smoking.I monitored the downstream sensor, it had too much activity on it
I don't think I believe your Upstream O2 sensor. Can you create a vacuum leak and lean the upstream sensor out, at all? Add propane to the intake? Any reaction?
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6 years 6 months ago #14013
by Tyler
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I'm with pole71, I dunno that the upstream sensor is telling the truth. If you find that it reacts, and that the downstream sensor generally agrees, then I'd question if the smoke really is a result of a rich condition. Possible oil consumption, like Andy mentioned?
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