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2001 Tacoma 2.4l p0171 too lean

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8 years 9 months ago #4302 by johnathon.balderas
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Have a 2001 tacoma in my shop with a lean code p0171. Long term fuel trim is 29% Short term is at around zero. Scoped maf sensor and got 4.35 volts at a snap test. Not sure where else to look. Any help would be appreciated

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8 years 9 months ago #4303 by OBD Rick
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Hi,

Classic start with a check on freeze frame data to identify what conditions the code was set in (idle? / under load?) Or just pull up live data and check fuel trims at idle and at 3k rpm.

If trims improve at higher rpm most likely the classic vacuum leak etc, if trims don't improve or get worse then possidly a fuel delivery problem.

Have a play on live data and let me know the results

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8 years 9 months ago #4308 by johnathon.balderas
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Fuel trims increase with acceleration. 30% at idle and 39 when accelerating. But normal at wot.

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8 years 9 months ago #4309 by cheryl hartkorn
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what is the fuel pressure reading? done an injector balance test yet? maybe restricted.

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8 years 9 months ago #4311 by ScannerDanner
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johnathon.balderas wrote: Fuel trims increase with acceleration. 30% at idle and 39 when accelerating. But normal at wot.

Acceleration and WOT is not when you want to be looking at trim numbers.
Give us an idle (I think you did already) and a steady 2500-3000 rpm reading in park. Hold it there for a minute to let it stabilize.

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8 years 9 months ago #4315 by johnathon.balderas
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Fuel trim climbs when I hold the throttle steady. Added propane to the intake to see if the ft would decrease it did. How high can the fuel trim numbers go?

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8 years 8 months ago #4322 by johnathon.balderas
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Going to check fuel pressure tomorrow

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8 years 8 months ago - 8 years 8 months ago #4323 by rockp2
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A new guy amateur question...isn't O2 feedback ignored at WOT? Kind of like being in open loop. Is that correct, or no? Would that explain why at WOT fuel trims are normal?
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8 years 8 months ago #4325 by OBD Rick
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Yeah in fact on alot of vehicles 8f you watch your loop status whilst on accell and WOT you will see it go into open loop at these times,

Jonathan's got the right idea, next step I would take in testing would be fuel pressure/volume check

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8 years 8 months ago #4341 by johnathon.balderas
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Fuel pressure is within spec. But according to mitchell while idling it's slightly too high. At idle it's supposed to be between 31 and 37 psi. I got 44 at idle. So I'm kind of stumped.

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8 years 8 months ago #4342 by johnathon.balderas
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Short term ft stays around 0 and long term is 28 to 33

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8 years 8 months ago #4343 by JuniorGS
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Did you disconnect the vacuum line from the fuel pressure regulator & do a snap throttle test with the fuel pressure gauge? You want to make sure that the pressure doesn't drop out on this test.

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8 years 8 months ago #4344 by johnathon.balderas
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I just did and it doesn't drop

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8 years 8 months ago #4346 by johnathon.balderas
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Pinched off return and fuel trim got better. Fuel pressure went to about 70

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8 years 8 months ago #4347 by johnathon.balderas
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Pinched off return and fuel trim got better. Fuel pressure went to about 70

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8 years 8 months ago #4364 by OBD Rick
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So with increased fuel pressure the fuel trims got better, I wonder if your dealing with restricted injector(s) I think I'd be going up the route of injector balance test next for the moment

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8 years 8 months ago #4366 by OBD Rick
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Also just thought (I'm not familiar with the engine) is this a V engine? If so does the fuel trim correction apply to both banks?

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8 years 8 months ago #4370 by johnathon.balderas
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It's a 4 cylinder. Is it possible for a performance air filter to cause this issue?

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8 years 8 months ago #4381 by borntoroll
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johnathon.balderas wrote: It's a 4 cylinder. Is it possible for a performance air filter to cause this issue?

It is a possibility

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8 years 8 months ago #4394 by matt.white
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Ignore the fuel trims but look at the o2 sensors at WOT. If it can hold good fuel pressure but still be lean (under .5v) I'd second blocked injectors.

Your peak maf voltage sounds ok but they're renowned for getting the resistors dirty. Check they're clean.

I have seen sports air filters give strange readings but not this bad. If it's an oiled filter that may have helped dirty the MAF.

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