89 Chevy Silverado issues.
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I checked the 02 sensor while the truck was running. on the 200 mv scale, it started at 138 mv and slowly dropped to around the 72 millivolts. unplugging it didnt seem to make a difference. this was unplugged, single wire sensor.
when the truck started idling really bad it was knocking and shaking around. I think it is running so lean at times it is detonating., I need to figure this out before it burns a hole in a piston.
other than replacing the tps., the only other thing I can think of is possibly a failing fuel pump, or ignition coil getting weak. when I unplugged the tps it threw a code 22. so its being monitored. intermittent problems are the hardest because I may go out tommorow and start it and it surges 3 or 4 times then idles great.
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I dont recall replacing a foam gasket near the TPS, i will check it.
I am also wondering, if I can be getting a intermittent vacuum leak thru my Evap system. should the little sensor that sits near the front of the engine that one vacuum hose goes to the canister and one goes to a vacuum port on the throttle body be closed, or open while running. (venting or closed venting) thanks
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Im going to check and see if the wire going over to the 02 sensor will reach the one on the manifold. truck is an 89, with a 92 motor. so, im not sure if the 02 sensor should be behind the cat, or in the manifold in front of the cat. As far as why there are 2, 02 sensor locations, I dont know if when the motor was changed if they kept the exhaust manifolds on it from the 92, and the 92 had it in the manifold, or they changed the exhaust and thats why. Im thinking it is more likely that when they changed the motor, they just used the whole thing, and didnt swap the manifolds.. why they didnt plug the hole is kind of puzzling, because that would send a lean mixture to the 02 sensor behind the cat, it would suck air into that hole. The truck was registered and driven until the head gasket blew abt a year before I bought it, so they must have somehow managed to make it go on down the road. ha
Unplugging the 02 doesnt seem to have any affect , at idle anyway,.in open or closed loop. not sure what function the 02 sensor has in this obd1 set up.
Im sure it does something other that throw a code, which it does if I unplug it.
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Another monkey wrench in the puzzle. my TBI rebuild kit shows some TBIs have an oring in the valve body in addition to the gasket that goes on the IAC valve. I removed my IAC and looked, and dont see a groove where an oring would seat, nor an old oring in there. I inspected the hole where the IAC sits, and recleaned everything. I also tested my purge valve for the evap cannister, it is not leaking. I replaced the vacuum hose goung from it to the throttle body, just for good karma, and started her up,, SOS same old ship.. surging idle. I can see this truck is going to make me go buy a 200.00 scan tool.
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\there has to be a reason they put it on the manifold, its never for mechanics convienence, its function and safety. I just cant image why someone would remove the one in the manifold, leave an empty hole then hook it to the one behind the cat, which isnt supposed to be there in the first place,, haha
makes me also wonder what happened to the radiator, cooling fan, pulleys, ect all missing when I bought the truck, and the intake manifold was in the bed.
we have been going over this truck with great detail.
replaced radiator, water pump. hoses. tstat. IAC. rebuilt throttle body, new battery, new belt, new fluid in rear diff, new rear brakes and hardware, replaced sway arm bushings on front, replaced squirrly ignition switch, had heads rebuilt, deglazed cyllider walls, replaced windshield washer bottle, .. everything works on the truck, 4 wheel drive works good, clutch was supposedly replaced and grabs good. that pesky surging issue is the last major issue.
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I would still recommend an otc genesis. You’ll get your widest range of old and new with bidirectional control. I keep a blue driver plugged in my 97’ burb but it won’t work with anything older than 96 infact I can’t think of any cheap new scaner that would support 89’ properly. I’m also not an expert on scan tools either.
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