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Why draw testing with a test light doesn't work
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5 years 2 months ago #41608
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Why draw testing with a test light doesn't work was created by Tyler
I caught myself trying to explain exactly why drain testing with a test light doesn't work in a recent Repair thread, annnnnnd I wasn't happy with my answer. :blush: Obviously, it isn't a valid test. I just struggled to explain why.
Hey, that's what personal cars are for! I started with a normal drain test, with the meter in series with the negative battery cable:
After about 18 minutes, we're well below our 50ma rule of thumb. I repeated this several times. Then, I put the test light in line with the meter AND the cable:
Tried to get the flickering light to show up. :silly: I left it there for over half an hour, just to give it every chance to go out. Never did. That's a false positive in my book. Imagine the rabbit holes you could go down looking for a draw that never existed...
The real key was checking voltage drop across the test light. With current flowing through the meter and test light, I connected between the battery and the test light:
Dropping seven volts across the light leaves the car about five to work with. :lol: Modules don't like that!
Hey, that's what personal cars are for! I started with a normal drain test, with the meter in series with the negative battery cable:
After about 18 minutes, we're well below our 50ma rule of thumb. I repeated this several times. Then, I put the test light in line with the meter AND the cable:
Tried to get the flickering light to show up. :silly: I left it there for over half an hour, just to give it every chance to go out. Never did. That's a false positive in my book. Imagine the rabbit holes you could go down looking for a draw that never existed...
The real key was checking voltage drop across the test light. With current flowing through the meter and test light, I connected between the battery and the test light:
Dropping seven volts across the light leaves the car about five to work with. :lol: Modules don't like that!
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5 years 2 months ago - 5 years 2 months ago #41618
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"Knowledge is a weapon. Arm yourself, well, before going to do battle."
"Understanding a question is half an answer."
I have learned more by being wrong, than I have by being right.
Replied by Chad on topic Why draw testing with a test light doesn't work
I agree. Using a test-light, by it's self, for a draw test is not advised. However, a test-light in conjunction with a volt meter can be very useful, as you demonstrated with the voltage.
The key is to use a "knife switch". Connect the test-light to each side of the switch.With the knife switch closed, modules can go to sleep, as they should. Then open the switch. Now, take a voltage drop across the test light and apply Ohm's Law. (A 1 Ohm resistor, instead of the test-light makes the math MUCH easier. 1mv drop = 1ma current on a 12v system.)
The key is to use a "knife switch". Connect the test-light to each side of the switch.With the knife switch closed, modules can go to sleep, as they should. Then open the switch. Now, take a voltage drop across the test light and apply Ohm's Law. (A 1 Ohm resistor, instead of the test-light makes the math MUCH easier. 1mv drop = 1ma current on a 12v system.)
"Knowledge is a weapon. Arm yourself, well, before going to do battle."
"Understanding a question is half an answer."
I have learned more by being wrong, than I have by being right.

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5 years 2 months ago #41677
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"Ground cannot be checked with a 10mm socket"
Replied by Noah on topic Why draw testing with a test light doesn't work
Thank you! Everyone I know tries to use the test light!
My response is always the same when someone pushes back at the correct procedure: "this is not a 1970 Monte Carlo"
My response is always the same when someone pushes back at the correct procedure: "this is not a 1970 Monte Carlo"
"Ground cannot be checked with a 10mm socket"
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