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PhantomOBD wrote: Has anyone tried the thinkdiag it is said to be made by launch and support enhanced dtc codes, special functions and actuation tests .
I have been looking to buy one from thinkdiag but I would prefer some feedback from people who have the device if possible.
I think my biggest issue with the think Diag tool is that subscription that is required to use the tool at all. I don't like being locked into a payment to make something not a $125 paperweight. It would be different if it kept at least a basic obd2 functionality without the subscription.... but no. You spend $125 the first year, and $40 a year after that, or it's the lightest brick you'll ever buy.
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PhantomOBD wrote: Has anyone tried the thinkdiag it is said to be made by launch and support enhanced dtc codes, special functions and actuation tests .
I have been looking to buy one from thinkdiag but I would prefer some feedback from people who have the device if possible.
I think my biggest issue with the think Diag tool is that subscription that is required to use the tool at all. I don't like being locked into a payment to make something not a $125 paperweight. It would be different if it kept at least a basic obd2 functionality without the subscription.... but no. You spend $125 the first year, and $40 a year after that, or it's the lightest brick you'll ever buy.
Like it or not up to date diagnostic software costs money.
As I need good Euro box coverage my main tool is a Launch Diagun V it came with 2 years free updates after which it will continue to work I decided that for the way I use it most economic path was to simply replace the whole tool every 3 to 4 years.
In North America is are fairly lucky in that the big three domestic manufacturers are well covered by lower cost tools or software but fFor Euro boxes and Asian diagnostic access beyond EOBD or JOBD less is avaialable at low cost.
There is of course a selection of one make hand held tools aimed at car owners and software iCarsoft for example have a good range of fairly powerful handheld devices. One brand low cst PC Software includes Forscan (Ford), MultiECU (Fiat group & increasingly Chrysler). inPA (BMW group), Ross-Tech VDS (VW group), TOAF (Mg-Rover but not LR) and there are lots more.
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I'm getting sick of this boat anchor, b/c it lacks must of anything for usefulness and the scope is so low res that it's hard to read the signals.
OTC had a laptop program called PCScan, but I think they put it on that Bosch tool now. What I don't like is that nobody will put all the years, makes and models ON ONE PC DIAGNOSTIC SOFTWARE so we can go to one solution with any VCI we want. If USG will mandate 'right to repair' then all the OEM's will be forced to disclose all data so that can happen, and thus end the tyranny of data metering for money. At least in Europe they've started that process.
If I'm wrong about this, then will someone please tell me which software I can buy that has all years, makes and models on it with full functionality that works on any VCI? I have a Launch J-box2 (CarDaq-Plus2), GM MDI2, Chrysler MicroPod2 clone (works great!), and old Pegisys VCI. Surely someone's PC software can work with all of those? That's the reason I came in here today, to see if such an animal exists. I've been waiting since the days of Snapon's MT2500 and STILL they're all living in the dark ages of computer tech!
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lpburke86 wrote:
PhantomOBD wrote: Has anyone tried the thinkdiag it is said to be made by launch and support enhanced dtc codes, special functions and actuation tests .
I have been looking to buy one from thinkdiag but I would prefer some feedback from people who have the device if possible.
I think my biggest issue with the think Diag tool is that subscription that is required to use the tool at all. I don't like being locked into a payment to make something not a $125 paperweight. It would be different if it kept at least a basic obd2 functionality without the subscription.... but no. You spend $125 the first year, and $40 a year after that, or it's the lightest brick you'll ever buy.
Like it or not up to date diagnostic software costs money.
As I need good Euro box coverage my main tool is a Launch Diagun V it came with 2 years free updates after which it will continue to work I decided that for the way I use it most economic path was to simply replace the whole tool every 3 to 4 years.
In North America is are fairly lucky in that the big three domestic manufacturers are well covered by lower cost tools or software but fFor Euro boxes and Asian diagnostic access beyond EOBD or JOBD less is avaialable at low cost.
There is of course a selection of one make hand held tools aimed at car owners and software iCarsoft for example have a good range of fairly powerful handheld devices. One brand low cst PC Software includes Forscan (Ford), MultiECU (Fiat group & increasingly Chrysler). inPA (BMW group), Ross-Tech VDS (VW group), TOAF (Mg-Rover but not LR) and there are lots more.
The thinkdiag after the 2 year subscription does still have basic OBD access according to there website. I have the full software version and have been happy but if anyone has any specific questions please let me know and i will try to answer. Obviously i can not check everything as will need access to the car to test much of it but if i can help i will.
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Does it cover JDM/Asian cars? (Suzuki SX4, Suzuki S Cross, Hyundai Matrix)?
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Hi everyone I’m a DIY guy, and new to scan tools, and this channel. I’m always on YouTube watching Scanner Danner and bought his book to learn more about trouble shooting todays cars. That being said I am looking to get a bidirectional scan tool along with some guidance on witch one to get, this will be for my personal use and to help friends and family and maybe some side money along the way. I’m looking to spend around 1k give or take a few hundred. I saw Scanner Danner review the Topdon Phinex I think, and was waiting for more use age of the tool but not seeing it.The market is flooded with these tools making it difficult to to choose one, especially a good reliable one that won’t break the bank like the snap on tool. Any information would be deeply appreciated. Also when you have to pay for updates is this to update the tool to continue to use it or is it to be able to work on newer cars and how often do you have to do these updates a year? I want to thank you all for your guidance.
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As s DIY guy are likely to have only a limited number of car manufacturers to cover. In this situation the Autel AP200 which works through a phone app might be the best low budget solution.The dongle comes with free software for one manufacturer. To cover each additional manufacturer you have to pay a small annual fee.
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What tools it gives you depends a lot on the vehicle manufacturer you have loaded but it will do injector calibration, EBS, steering angle calibration, abs bleeding and a whole lot more
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